What is the Greatest Revolver of All Time?
- Nov 12, 2022

In order to decide who the GOAT is in wheel guns, we had to gather some veterans at the round table to discuss. Long-time Green Top veterans Mike Gardner, Frankie Sharpe, Travis Barrett, and Patrick Combs join Hunter for another bracket-style tournament to determine what the greatest revolver of all time is.
From the Colt Python, the S&W model 19, the Ruger Blackhawk, and even the Charter Arms Bulldog, the rich history behind these classic firearms is discussed, along with a couple of great stories and experiences from the old store.
Transcript
Narrator (00:00:02):
Hunting, fishing, and all things outdoors. It's not just a hobby, it's a lifestyle. Welcome to the Greentop Outdoors Podcast with your host, Hunter Brooks.
Hunter (00:00:13):
Welcome to this week's episode of the Greentop Outdoors Podcast. Man. We got a motley crew on this one. To my right is Frankie Sharpe. Frankie, how are you? I'm
Frankie (00:00:22):
Fine, hunter. How Are you today?
Hunter (00:00:23):
I'm doing good, man. How long you been with Greentop Frankie?
Frankie (00:00:26):
Uh, 35 years.
Hunter (00:00:27):
35 years. Goddamn.
Patrick (00:00:29):
Damn. He's, geez, <laugh>
Hunter (00:00:31):
To his right is the one and only Mike Gardner. Mike, how long you been with Greentop? I, about 20 years now. 20 years. Yeah. Patrick Combs to his right?
Patrick (00:00:41):
Uh, yes sir. I've been here 31 years.
Hunter (00:00:44):
31 years. And then the one, the only Travis Barrett. How you doing, sir? I'm
Travis (00:00:48):
Good. How are you?
Hunter (00:00:49):
We're good. Today is special, and we've got a special group of people for this. We're gonna decide on what the most or the greatest revolver is of all time.
Patrick (00:01:00):
I know the answer. <laugh>, <laugh>. I'm not opinionated or anything <laugh>,
Hunter (00:01:05):
But we've got, uh, we did this, we've done this before with other firearms, iconic firearms, and we did the best, was it the greatest shotgun of all time? Didn't we do that, Travis? Yeah, we, we were there for that one. Uh, it's a bracket style. We've narrowed it down to, is it 24? I believe it
Patrick (00:01:20):
Is. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> not went to public school.
Travis (00:01:22):
Right. Minute <laugh>.
Hunter (00:01:24):
24 revolvers that. We're gonna take you through each and every matchup and we're gonna discuss, um, a little bit about each one, but we're gonna take you to the who, who's gonna be the finalist. Uh, this is, it's some good ones in here. And we've got some honorable mentions we're gonna talk about first, or should, or, or you wanna go through each, each seated, uh, revolver.
Mike (00:01:43):
Yeah. We better, we better pick the winner and then give honorable
Hunter (00:01:45):
Mentions. Okay. We'll do honorable mentions later. Probably
Mike (00:01:48):
Start. Yeah. If we don't, you know, they're gonna be, have their feelings hurt. Yeah.
Hunter (00:01:50):
Yeah. We don't wanna offend anybody. I, no, not at
Mike (00:01:52):
All. No.
Hunter (00:01:52):
Yeah. No. Where should we start guys? Right at the top.
Patrick (00:01:58):
Which bracket do you wanna start in?
Hunter (00:01:59):
Ooh, let's just start at the top. Cause we got the, uh, the eight and the nine seed, and the 10 and the seven seed and the top part. So, uh, Travis eight and nine seed. What we got? You
Travis (00:02:09):
Got the Smith 27 28, which is a in frame, large frame, 3 57 versus the combat masterpiece. Smith and Wesson.
Hunter (00:02:20):
Tough matchup. There's a lot of Smith in this tournament.
Patrick (00:02:24):
And also the combat masterpiece is a, is a K frame, right, Travis?
Hunter (00:02:27):
Yes. So you got an in frame versus a K frame? Yes.
Patrick (00:02:30):
Big versus small or,
Travis (00:02:33):
Okay. Smaller.
Patrick (00:02:34):
Smaller,
Hunter (00:02:34):
Smaller. Maybe. Then you got, um, and you, but they're both six shooters, right?
Travis (00:02:39):
Originally. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>
Hunter (00:02:40):
And barrel lengths are usually four and six on either one,
Patrick (00:02:44):
Typically, but there are some extra, some actually some rare, rare burrow lengths as far as on the 20 sevenths.
Travis (00:02:50):
Yeah. They did those in five and eight and three eights.
Patrick (00:02:54):
Didn't they able do a three inch
Hunter (00:02:55):
1, 3, 3, 3 and a half? Yeah. Yeah. They're both rare guns. You don't see it. Well, you see a fair amount of 20 sevens and 20 eights, but clean combat masterpieces, I don't know. We just don't see too many of those. So we gotta go around, we gotta figure out which one's gonna go to the move on to the next round to take on the one, the number one seated coal python. We'll start with you Travis.
Travis (00:03:20):
Uh, my vote would be for the combat masterpiece, just for the versatility, you know, if you could carry it concealed if you wanted to. It's got a better balance and feel, in my opinion. It's a little more iconic,
Hunter (00:03:32):
Patrick,
Patrick (00:03:33):
Actually, um, kind of just the opposite. I'd go with the Smith, the 27 slash 28. The whole idea behind that, that gun is basically is built on the 44 Magnum frame. You can handle it, it's super hot, handles all the real Magnum loads, uh, without like, shaking the pieces.
Hunter (00:03:50):
It's like a little less recall too, man, with a bigger frame.
Patrick (00:03:52):
It's, it's definitely heavy.
Hunter (00:03:54):
Okay. Mike Gardner?
Mike (00:03:56):
I gotta agree. I, I would say the 27, because many times the, I, I've heard the 27 referred to as their Python, they took the time to make it special. You know, it had the checkered top strap and all that to compete mm-hmm. With the Python. So I think it's, that's closer to head to head combat. Masterpieces a great gun. But I think against those two, you gotta put the, their two best production against each other.
Hunter (00:04:19):
Frankie,
Frankie (00:04:21):
I was leaning towards the combat masterpiece, but I'm thinking wasn't the 27 the highway patrolman or something like that? 28
Mike (00:04:27):
Column. 28 was 128
Frankie (00:04:28):
Was a highway patrolman. Yeah.
Patrick (00:04:29):
Basically the same gun just was a cheaper finish. Yeah,
Travis (00:04:32):
It's dress down a little bit.
Frankie (00:04:33):
Mm-hmm. <affirmative> something more iconic. I think I'll go with the, uh, 27 slash 28.
Hunter (00:04:38):
Well, that's three outta five.
Travis (00:04:39):
I guess I'm leaving <laugh>. <laugh>.
Hunter (00:04:43):
All right. So
Travis (00:04:45):
All those poor policemen that need a hip replacement <laugh>, we're carrying that great big revolver
Hunter (00:04:51):
Carrying that
Frankie (00:04:52):
Anchor on their
Mike (00:04:52):
Hip. Remember? Um, border patrol carried the 28, I think for the longest time.
Hunter (00:04:59):
All right. So the 20 Smith, 27 28 advances to take on the Colt Python at the number one seed. Okay. Below that we have the seven 10 seed, the seven seated Smith and Wesson model 10 versus the, uh, the classic Ruger single six. I think it's the only rim fire in this, uh, in this uh, tournament, correct? I think it is. I think
Travis (00:05:20):
It is.
Patrick (00:05:21):
Well actually
Hunter (00:05:22):
Because the kick the,
Patrick (00:05:22):
Another one could be,
Hunter (00:05:23):
Yeah, the other one could be the kit gun, I guess. The Diamondback. The Diamondback could be. Yeah, that's, that's right. That's right. The Diamondback. Yeah. That's a 38 special or 22. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Okay. Uh, I'll start this one off. We'll go around. Um, single six, model 10. Uh, I gotta go with Model 10 on this just cuz the hi, the historical value of it. Now I know the single six is a fan phenomenal revolver. I do love it because it's what my dad taught me to how to shoot a handgun on, uh, you could, it's a convertible because you can shoot 22 mag 22 long rifle. But I gotta go with a model 10. I just feel like that's a, it's a more iconic gun. Um, bigger caliber. What do you think, Frankie?
Frankie (00:06:03):
Uh, the single six is definitely a sentimental favorite of mine. Cuz I was the first handgun I ever bought here at Green Top. Um, a lot of kids I'm sure started shooting off that little revolver. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, uh, but probably, I think the model ten's more of a iconic mover revolver. So I'm, I'm gonna take the Model 10 as well,
Hunter (00:06:26):
Mike Gardner.
Mike (00:06:27):
I agree. Model 10, model ten's. The, the K frame. It's the basis of so many of Smith and Wes super successful revolvers. And those were the same frames used in the, the military guns. The m and p 30 eights.
Patrick (00:06:40):
The Victory
Mike (00:06:41):
Model. The victory model, correct. Yeah. More two. Yeah, that's right. So I, I gotta go model 10,
Hunter (00:06:46):
Patrick. It's doesn't really matter now. Same thing, man.
Patrick (00:06:49):
Seriously? Yeah, it doesn't matter. But Model 10 always gets my thing.
Hunter (00:06:52):
Travis, you're gonna go single six, aren't you?
Travis (00:06:55):
<laugh>? No. I mean, it, it's unfortunate the matchup, but the Model 10 is just so iconic, millions and millions used in law enforcement. And like Mike said, it's on all K frame.
Hunter (00:07:09):
Well, the model 10 advances, it will go to the next round versus the number two seated.
Travis (00:07:15):
Ooh.
Hunter (00:07:16):
Wow. Single action Army.
Mike (00:07:18):
Woo. Somebody's getting booted <laugh>.
Hunter (00:07:22):
All right, moving down to the bottom part of this tournament. Uh, we've got the eight nine seed, uh, Scofield versus the Smith and Wesson model. 15 Travis, we'll start with you on this one.
Travis (00:07:40):
That's a tough one. It depends on what area you like of your firearms. The, uh, Scofield, it's kind of in between the single action Army and the 1860 Army and Model 15. Again, another iconic K frame. Air Force used him for years. I'm gonna pick the model 15.
Hunter (00:08:04):
Travis goes 15 Patrick. Hmm.
Patrick (00:08:08):
Once again, I go against Travis,
Travis (00:08:09):
Uh, Scofield.
Patrick (00:08:10):
I'm telling you it's gotta be the Scofield. When, who is that guy? In 18 hundreds. The bank robber guy who carried the Scofield?
Mike (00:08:16):
Jesse James.
Patrick (00:08:17):
Jesse James carried one, right?
Frankie (00:08:18):
He did carry one. I'm pretty sure that's right. He did. You're
Patrick (00:08:21):
Honoring
Travis (00:08:22):
Criminals. <laugh>. Hey,
Patrick (00:08:23):
Entrepreneurs. <laugh>.
Mike (00:08:26):
Somebody had to
Hunter (00:08:27):
Test him. That's right, Mike.
Mike (00:08:29):
I I I am, I'm definitely, well, the fifteens nice. The Scofield is is got it all the way.
Hunter (00:08:35):
All right. So two to one Scofield. Frankie,
Frankie (00:08:40):
I, wow. That's tough. But I I I do like the Scofield as well. It's a unique piece.
Hunter (00:08:46):
Yeah, really. I think, uh, I, I I like the fifteens, but they're just, they've always been very, because it's not three fifty seven Magnum, they've always been born to me. You know, the
Mike (00:08:57):
15 was the gun that Brody shot the shark with. When <laugh> remember that Jaws what you talking about? Remember in Jaws when he was sitting there shooting and Clint said, what are you doing? <laugh>? Or, or either it was, uh, Hooper. You are correct, sir. The Fifteenths kinda like the nineteenths little brother. Correct?
Patrick (00:09:13):
Yeah. So he shot, he shot the shark with a 38 special.
Mike (00:09:16):
He did remember he put the arsenic in the, the first
Hunter (00:09:18):
Time. Oh yeah.
Mike (00:09:19):
And the first time then jumped over shooting at it. And I thought
Patrick (00:09:21):
He shot him with like a scuba tank or something. Remember
Mike (00:09:23):
That? That was the grand, that was later. That was, that was
Hunter (00:09:26):
His like fifth attempt. <laugh>. Yeah. This
Mike (00:09:27):
Was the first time he saw the shark. Correct.
Patrick (00:09:29):
That was little one. I Washington all.
Frankie (00:09:33):
Well, that's why we're here to
Mike (00:09:33):
Walk through it. Well, SCO Alright man.
Hunter (00:09:36):
<laugh>.
Mike (00:09:36):
So the Scofield, the Scofield
Hunter (00:09:38):
Advances, it feels like the old store. We're having conversations like we used to have at the evenings at the old store when we were, when we were bored doing nothing. Right, <laugh>? Yeah, that's right.
(00:09:48):
So Scofield advances, it's taken on the number one seat at Smith and Wesson 19 slash 66. The Blues or the Stainless Gun. What a matchup. Woo. Move it down. Ten seven, uh, Smith 19 17 45 Revolver. Uh, versus the Colt Diamondback. The Colt Diamond Back could be either the 22 Rim fire or the 38 special. Um, I'm gonna start this off. I'm gonna go, I'm going History baby. I'm going. Smith and Wesson 1917. Um, it's 45. I mean, I don't know much historical significance of that gun. I'm sure Mike Gardner's gonna fill us in on a little something when he gets around to him. Uh, but I'm going, Smith, 1917. Frankie,
Frankie (00:10:36):
I think the, uh, 1917 is my vote as well. I mean, culture good. I mean, I just, and nice. But I think I'm going to the 17 on that one. 1917.
Patrick (00:10:47):
It kind of feels like we're comparing fried chicken to popcorn as far as like, you know,
Mike (00:10:51):
The difference and not even popcorn chicken.
Patrick (00:10:53):
Yeah. I mean, cuz these guns actually have nothing in common with each other. Right? Zero.
Mike (00:11:00):
That's great. You just ruined the whole thing. <laugh>
Patrick (00:11:03):
Throw.
Mike (00:11:03):
Well, it took my, it took my
Patrick (00:11:05):
Line. I just told you. I said, I mean, it is what it is.
Hunter (00:11:10):
Mike, you want us to come back to
Mike (00:11:11):
You buddy? Uh, no, I'm good. Oh, is it my turn? Yeah, it's your turn. Sorry. I thought it was Patrick's turn the way he kind of just took over. It was kind of, you know, <laugh>. Yeah. Very aggressive. Mike. I, I'm sorry. Head dental.
Patrick (00:11:20):
I'll
Mike (00:11:20):
Do better. 1917 is a classic, of course, another US service gun. But really the only reason it kind of is there is because they couldn't get enough 19 elevens made. So the Colt made 19 seventeens and so did Smith and Wesson to get revolvers in military hands because it was taking longer to make the semi-auto where the diamond back is an absolute little gem. Yeah. You know what I mean? The, the seventeens wall, the Smith 17 was a lot prettier than the cold. Remember the col looks like you got tumbled in the dryer and then said, all right, send it out. It's good. <laugh> <laugh>, but the Smiths always were more refined, always better looking. Yeah. So, but that diamond back is some kind of sweet, it's like a baby python. It's a
Hunter (00:12:04):
Baby python.
Mike (00:12:04):
Yeah. So I I'm gonna go diamond back in that one.
Hunter (00:12:07):
Oh, interesting. Hmm. Nice. Didn't think he'd go that way. Well played, well
Mike (00:12:13):
Played, sir. Thank you <laugh>,
Hunter (00:12:16):
Patrick. All
Patrick (00:12:19):
Right, well I'll tell you what I agree with Mike and so I would definitely go Diamond back and one of the main reasons is the 1917 took moon clips and I've refused to have a revolver that takes moon clips. Good
Hunter (00:12:29):
Point sir.
Patrick (00:12:30):
Cuz you have to Deon 'em. That's actually a real word, believe
Hunter (00:12:33):
It or not. I didn't know that. Yeah, it is
Patrick (00:12:34):
A real word.
Mike (00:12:34):
There's a tool called a de mooning tool. <laugh>. Yeah. There is such a thing.
Patrick (00:12:39):
Yeah, you can get a ticket for it too.
Mike (00:12:40):
Well,
Hunter (00:12:42):
Okay, so it's
Mike (00:12:47):
2 2 2 2. Oh, Travis. Oh, Travis. A little revenge
Travis (00:12:51):
Factor here.
Hunter (00:12:52):
Our first tiebreaker, ladies and gentlemen. That's right. <laugh>.
Travis (00:12:56):
I'm with Patrick. I'm going Diamond back. Nice. I hate a moon clip. Gun 45 should be a semi-automatic 1911. Not a revolver <laugh>
Mike (00:13:05):
Like that too. Good
Travis (00:13:05):
Point. Like Mike said, it was, it was kind of a backup gun. It wasn't the fighting gun of the United States military. So I'll go with the diamond back.
Hunter (00:13:16):
They're big and heavy too, now that I think about it. Okay, we're we're, we're wrong. Frankie, we lose that one. Can I change my vote <laugh>? Sure, you can change it now. We're So Diamondback advances, uh, it'll take on the number two seated Ruger Black Hawk, and that includes the Super Black Hawk. That's all in one. All right, so let's go back up to the top. Uh, where were we at at the number one seed plan now? Back to the number one. Yeah, we ought, we ought come back to that one <laugh>.
Patrick (00:13:47):
Um,
Hunter (00:13:48):
Yeah, let's go to the four five seed, the Smith and Wesson 29 versus the Colt Police Positive.
Mike (00:13:56):
I'm gonna make a prediction. Everyone is going to pick like me, <laugh>, the Smith and Wesson model 29.
Travis (00:14:04):
Do you feel lucky punk
Mike (00:14:05):
<laugh>?
Hunter (00:14:07):
Yeah. There's not much to
Mike (00:14:08):
Did, I guess six times or only five <laugh>
Travis (00:14:11):
In all this excitement. I forgot
Mike (00:14:13):
<laugh>.
Hunter (00:14:16):
I don't think there's any argument here. Yeah,
Patrick (00:14:18):
I don't think we need a
Hunter (00:14:19):
Vote on. We can, we can move on. Let's just go ahead and write in the 29, 29 30 at least positive police positive's. Got some good history to it. It's a nice, neat little gun. Oh,
Mike (00:14:29):
Oh, yeah, yeah. I mean, it's got,
Travis (00:14:30):
Its, it'll have its hands full in the next round.
Hunter (00:14:32):
You wouldn't find one in my collection, but
Patrick (00:14:34):
That's the one thing positive about it. Positive. I won't own it. <laugh>
Hunter (00:14:37):
<laugh>.
Mike (00:14:39):
Well,
Travis (00:14:39):
It was, it was their answer to the model 10.
Patrick (00:14:42):
Yeah. It just wasn't.
Hunter (00:14:43):
Nah, Mike, what is that in the middle of the table right there, by the way?
Mike (00:14:47):
That is a fabulous example of a K frame. Okay. That's Smith and Wesson six.
Hunter (00:14:52):
Okay, we'll
Mike (00:14:52):
Get to that dash two.
Hunter (00:14:54):
Nice.
Patrick (00:14:54):
Are those combat grips? What do they
Mike (00:14:56):
Call this? Those are combat target grips. How about that? Combat finger groove target grips. Now that's
Travis (00:15:03):
Otherwise known as something hog grips. <laugh>.
Hunter (00:15:05):
If Terry, if Terry's listening, Terry would've probably thrown those in the trash and put some hogs or Pac Myers on it. Right?
Mike (00:15:10):
I did not say that Terry. That was Hunter Brooks <laugh>. So I did not even bring that up. <laugh>. All right,
Hunter (00:15:17):
Moving on. We got the 29 advancing to the winner of the Colt Python Smith 27 28. But let's, let's keep going down. Let's, let's keep, I wanna avoid that one for some reason. Let's move down to the, uh, three six seed. The, uh, very iconic Smith and Wesson 6 86 versus the Ruger Red Hawk Travis. We'll start with you
Mike (00:15:40):
<laugh>.
Travis (00:15:42):
Boy, that's two of my favorites right here. Um,
Hunter (00:15:44):
This is a tough matchup, man.
Travis (00:15:46):
It really is. Because
Hunter (00:15:47):
The redhawk, you, you kind of, that encompasses the super Redhawk too, because
Travis (00:15:51):
Yeah. And the Redhawk, you know, the Red Hawk would take hotter loads than the Smith supposedly, you know?
Hunter (00:15:58):
Yeah. It's 40.
Travis (00:15:58):
It, it's, it's a heavier duty gun. That's why, you know? Yeah. They come out with it, which of course, Ruger, overbuilds, everything, you're never gonna blow one of them up. The, uh, 6 86 is just, that's Smith and Wesson's version of the Python. It's iconic. I'm going 6 86.
Patrick (00:16:16):
Good choice. Good choice. I tell you what, um, I'm going 6 86 as well. Uh, my personal opinion, if you could only ever own one handgun, just one, it'd be a Smith and Wesson 6 86 and 3 57 Magnum four inch barrel. Definitely.
Hunter (00:16:32):
Wow. Six shot or seven? Shot
Patrick (00:16:34):
Six.
Mike (00:16:34):
Gotta be six. Yeah.
Patrick (00:16:35):
Seven. No on. Nah man. Come on.
Mike (00:16:38):
Seven. Yeah.
Travis (00:16:39):
Don't nobody having no blue hair at this table. <laugh>
Mike (00:16:45):
Mike. I I've gotta also go 6 86
Hunter (00:16:48):
Uhoh
Mike (00:16:48):
6 86. And you remember the, when the Red Hawk first came out, it wa it came out as a 3 57. That's right. Yeah. You remember that cylinder in that thing? It, it was like three and a half pounds was just a cylinder, Johnny. It was a beast, but, and you're right. You never blow it
Hunter (00:17:02):
Up. You could cram as much powder in that casing and stuff. A bullet on top and it just, yeah.
Mike (00:17:06):
Eat. Absolutely.
Hunter (00:17:08):
But so, but they, you know, but they did some different calibers in the Redhawk too. They did 45 long Col 41 Magnum, which is another rare one. You sure? Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Um, the 4 54 Casto eventually came out. The, uh,
Patrick (00:17:18):
Didn't they do a 10 millimeter?
Hunter (00:17:20):
10 millimeter, yeah. Four 80 Ruger. Remember that? Yeah.
Patrick (00:17:23):
Unfortunately. Yeah.
Hunter (00:17:24):
Unfortunately. <laugh>
Travis (00:17:25):
Quick story on Ruger and how tough they are. And y'all probably remember this. We sold a lady a s Sp 1 0 1, which is their small frame. Oh 3 57.
Hunter (00:17:33):
Oh yeah. Five shot.
Travis (00:17:35):
She bought it, come back about three hours later, said this gun won't hit anything. I shot it three times. Can't even hit the paper. Now. The cylinder's locked up. We look at the gun, it's got three bullets lodged in the barrel. She shot one behind the other, behind the other. Holy cow.
Hunter (00:17:52):
She bought reloads at a range. Yeah. And
Travis (00:17:53):
Never messed the gun up gun.
Patrick (00:17:55):
Not our range. Y'all. So
Travis (00:17:57):
That's a testament how tough a Ruger revolver is. Yeah. This was back in the, this was
Hunter (00:18:01):
Back in early
Travis (00:18:02):
Two thousands. Forgot
Mike (00:18:04):
All about that.
Hunter (00:18:04):
Yeah. Yeah.
Travis (00:18:05):
So I said we recommend that, but
Hunter (00:18:07):
That's insane. They're built tough man. Yeah.
Travis (00:18:10):
Good thing she had fought a Ruger that day, cuz that's probably the only one that would've held up to that.
Hunter (00:18:14):
Yes, definitely. I would agree. Absolutely. So I guess the 6 86,
Patrick (00:18:19):
It's three
Hunter (00:18:19):
Zero, right? Yeah. Overkill. I'm taking the 6 86 as well. I'm following you. I'm going 6 86. I like the Ruger Redhawk. I've always had a thing for it. They're, they're really nice. But, uh, I, I, the 6 86 I 'em with Patrick. I think if you're gonna own like one handgun, it's a, and it's gonna be a revolver That's gonna be the one to get, or 5 86, the blue version. Which, which initially came out before the 6 86. All right. 6 86 advances. Okay. Above them. Um, this is quite a, a duo colt Single Action Army versus the Smith and Wesson model 10. Mm hmm.
Travis (00:18:57):
Cowboy versus law enforcement.
Mike (00:18:59):
That's right. Goodness.
Hunter (00:19:00):
Uh, I'll start it off. Actually, I'll tell you what we'll start, Mike, you started
Mike (00:19:04):
Off this time, oh, I'm gonna start it <laugh> as, as much as I appreciate the model 10 iconic is the cold single action army. Just about anybody in the world. If you held up a picture, you could say, what is that? And they would go, oh, that's a cold peacemaker. I mean, any, you could be at the produce section in the grocery store and lady thumping the melons is gonna go, whoa. That's a, that's a peacemaker. That's Matt Dillon's gun. So that gun is recognized.
Hunter (00:19:33):
I have to meet this lady by
Mike (00:19:34):
Everybody. Oh yeah.
Patrick (00:19:35):
Thumping melons. Oh,
Mike (00:19:36):
She was thumping <laugh>.
Patrick (00:19:38):
Did they ask you to leave?
Mike (00:19:42):
Uh, no, no. Bu but because I had a picture of the single election army, they were a little bit afraid of me. So they were, he
Hunter (00:19:48):
Kept crashing his car into all the little ladies' carts. Is that a cold, single election army in your pocket? <laugh>,
Mike (00:19:56):
But definitely single election army. Okay. Gotta be,
Hunter (00:20:01):
Uh, let's who, who's next? Pat Patrick, go
Patrick (00:20:03):
Ahead. Uh, definitely, definitely the cult election Army. I'll tell you what. Yeah. All the old Western movies used to watch in TV shows. I mean, like the Cisco kid, remember that one? Yes. Oh yeah. Smoke Poncho, whatever. I mean, all those
Mike (00:20:14):
Cheyenne Gun smoke, all
Hunter (00:20:16):
Those,
Travis (00:20:16):
All
Patrick (00:20:16):
Of them. Yeah, all those guys. That's what they had. I mean, it was
Mike (00:20:19):
The Magnificent seven.
Patrick (00:20:20):
Right. It's just, it's it's an American classic man. It's been copied by everybody cuz it's good. And they still make it to this day, which is incredible.
Hunter (00:20:29):
Yep. You know, and if you notice the Ruger v the Ruger Vaccaro did not make this list Correct. Because neither did a UTI or anything else because everything was modeled after that cult. Correct. So therefore, sorry. As
Mike (00:20:44):
Successful as Rug's Blackhawk is Right.
Hunter (00:20:46):
You get a shout because they're, they're, they're not exactly like,
Travis (00:20:48):
They're
Hunter (00:20:48):
Nice, they're nice, they're nice copies of the cult, but Correct. It's not, not, and for
Patrick (00:20:52):
Those, it's not a cult know. The, the cult came out in 1873. All right. And you start doing the math, which I can't do 'em ahead, but, uh, almost was it 150 years ago?
Travis (00:21:02):
Yeah. Yeah. And not that they do a lot of 'em, but they still make,
Patrick (00:21:05):
They still make it 150 years later, they're still making that, that same gun. They're still
Mike (00:21:09):
Super desirable too. They don't last when we get 'em in, they're,
Travis (00:21:12):
They're sold very much. And one reason, like Hunter was talking about the other guns, people buy those to shoot. Not many people shoot their cols if they do. Not very much. Just cuz they don't want to wear it out. Yeah.
Frankie (00:21:25):
Yep. That goes, that goes in the cabinet. That's right. And they get it.
Travis (00:21:27):
It's a pride and joy piece as much as anything.
Frankie (00:21:30):
Yeah. Absolutely.
Hunter (00:21:32):
I'm going single action Army too.
Travis (00:21:34):
Yeah. All right.
Frankie (00:21:36):
Five,
Hunter (00:21:36):
Nothing. Sorry. Model 10.
Frankie (00:21:38):
Exactly. Cult single action. Yeah.
Patrick (00:21:43):
Man, this is really shaping up to be a Colt Smith thing going
Hunter (00:21:45):
On. Yeah. It's looking that way. All right. Go to the very bottom two. Another Colt and smith com. Colt, detective special. They're small frame versus, uh, Smith J Frames, which is a, th either a 36 or a 60. The Battle of the Small Frames. Hmm. Travis, you start this one off, man, they're both nice. Well,
Travis (00:22:10):
The detective specials slash Cobra, it's got an advantage being six shot. The Smith 36. It's got the name Chief Special. It's like the original Carry gun. Detective Gun. Personally, I, I'd take the Smith, I'm a Smith Revolver guy over Colt. I, I, I vote for the 36
Hunter (00:22:35):
Frankie.
Frankie (00:22:37):
Yeah, I think I am too. I'm more of a Smith revolver person. Uh, I think a little bit of bias is coming through on some of these mm-hmm. <affirmative>, but, uh, I mean, cults are great. Absolutely. But, uh, I've just liked the way the Smith feels over the cult. I would go with the 36 myself.
Hunter (00:22:55):
Well, I think the 36 and the 60 spawned other models. Oh yeah. They're still in production today. The detect, I mean, the detective special is not, um, you know, you got air weights now. You got scans, you got so many different models. Oh, it's huge. Oh, you got, uh, anything from Rim fire to 3 27 federal to, you know, 22 Magnum. You had the
Travis (00:23:15):
Bodyguard series back in the day, and then the Hammerless centennial style.
Hunter (00:23:19):
Yeah. It's, uh,
Travis (00:23:19):
That still our most popular
Hunter (00:23:20):
Model model, revolver model. Yeah. That model is just, uh, you know, it's responsible for the, the, the everything they have now and before, you know. So, uh, I'm going Smith 36 60.
Patrick (00:23:33):
Right. And also, you know, we, I don't know what we've mentioned or not. The, the Smith is a five shot while the Colts are six. Well, the whole point of that gun is to have a small gun, to have it with you. So, I mean, the five shot is just, it's a little smaller, not quite as bulky. I mean Yeah. And that's the whole point.
Hunter (00:23:49):
Slightly smaller. Yep.
Travis (00:23:51):
Mike Garner.
Hunter (00:23:52):
Mike, you got any input? I'm, I'm
Mike (00:23:53):
Gonna have to also go with the Smith. There's nothing prettier than a detective special, especially a, they are nickel plated with the wood grips on
Travis (00:24:00):
It. Third generation.
Mike (00:24:01):
Correct. Like Sandra Lockhead and Sudden Impact. Oh yeah. Spectacular.
Travis (00:24:05):
Oh
Mike (00:24:05):
Yeah. I mean, absolutely. Beautiful. Wasn't had the
Patrick (00:24:08):
Gun, Mike <laugh>.
Mike (00:24:08):
Oh, what were you looking at? <laugh>. But as far as, yeah, I gotta go the Smith. That's
Hunter (00:24:16):
One thing about Colts, man, that they do
Mike (00:24:18):
Look Oh my gosh. And finish. Beautiful. Yeah. Nobody
Travis (00:24:21):
Nickels a gun like Cole even. Yeah. They're
Mike (00:24:23):
Beautiful. Absolutely.
Frankie (00:24:24):
Right. Yeah. They're beautiful pieces. They really
Hunter (00:24:26):
Are. They are.
Mike (00:24:27):
And, and think about it too, when someone comes in to, to trade a gun in or sell a gun to us, you go, oh, he is got a 36. Or if they have a detector special mint in the box, you Oh, yeah.
Travis (00:24:37):
The flock around to
Mike (00:24:39):
Yeah. What does he got there?
Travis (00:24:40):
If he asked me one, I'm buying to put my safe for like retirement. I'm get the cult, but Correct. Day in, day out, I'll take the Smith. Yeah,
Hunter (00:24:48):
Yeah,
Frankie (00:24:48):
Yeah. And that's one thing we really haven't talked about is a craftsmanship, you know, that goes into these pieces. I mean, some of 'em just like, there works of art in my opinion. Yeah. Oh yeah. And they
Travis (00:24:58):
Really are spread everything on this list back in the day when they, just the way they look's, not a
Hunter (00:25:02):
Machine. They're more
Frankie (00:25:04):
Plastic now.
Hunter (00:25:05):
And, and Patrick, you, you see what they're doing online and everything now they're more and more collectible as the years go by because these manufacturers are not putting out product like this. No. And they probably never, and they never will. Never will. They never will. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>.
Patrick (00:25:18):
Right. I mean, they're too expensive to actually make like that anymore.
Hunter (00:25:21):
Yeah. Um, I mean even like, even it's like
Travis (00:25:23):
Classic cars.
Hunter (00:25:24):
Yeah. Even Wilson Combat's got those quar revolvers out there. Right. Was it Nighthawk? Who, whoever it is. Um, even though, I mean, they, yeah, they're nice. They're very expensive, but they still, they don't, I don't think they, they even compare to, even to even an old Smith or an old Col No. You know?
Travis (00:25:40):
No. Huh. Well, you can ride up to Chevrolet right now and buy a Camaro, but it ain't a 68 Camaro.
Hunter (00:25:44):
Correct. That's true. That's, yeah. It's good. It's, yeah. Know
Frankie (00:25:47):
66 Mustang or something like that. Mm-hmm.
Travis (00:25:49):
<affirmative> same. It's very similar looking. It ain't nowhere near above.
Mike (00:25:52):
Right. Even with Colt Col is bringing back revolvers and, but you look at the new stuff, it's not like the old stuff.
Travis (00:26:00):
Mm-hmm. What's the difference between being CNC machine and handmade?
Mike (00:26:04):
Absolutely. Right. Yeah. Fitted by a gun, a gunsmith, or are put together by an assembly.
Travis (00:26:08):
Right? Yeah. Yeah. There are no world craftsmen anymore like it used to be.
Hunter (00:26:11):
Right. So Smith 36 or 60 J Frame. They
Mike (00:26:16):
Just, we just went off Yes. On how great and wonderful the cult ism. Were already on Smith and West than 30
Hunter (00:26:22):
<laugh>.
Mike (00:26:23):
What is going on Smith? We
Travis (00:26:24):
Smith.
Hunter (00:26:25):
It's
Patrick (00:26:25):
Just a practical gun.
Hunter (00:26:27):
<laugh>. All right. All right. Above that, uh, looks like we got the number two seated Ruger Black Hawk against, uh, the Colt Diamondback. Patrick, you start us off.
Mike (00:26:40):
Where are
Patrick (00:26:40):
We? Mm. Good Lord. Uh, that's a tough one, man. Uh, I think, believe it or not, I think I'd go with the Ruger. Um, I think that the Black Hawk series, you know, they do a variety of calibers, you know, 30 car being and 3 57, 40 fives, 40 fours. I mean, it's, it's such a versatile platform. Yeah. I, I definitely have to go with the Black Hawk. Have to.
Hunter (00:27:07):
Okay. Travis?
Travis (00:27:10):
Yeah. I lean to the Black Hawk. Especially when you get into like the convertibles, you know, you can have one gun that shoot 38, 9 millimeter, 3 57 with no
Patrick (00:27:19):
Moon clips,
Hunter (00:27:20):
With's,
Travis (00:27:20):
No moon clips.
Hunter (00:27:21):
No moon clips. No moon clips.
Travis (00:27:22):
If you wanna load it, hide, it'll take it. If you wanna shoot cowboy loads, you're good. I mean, it's just next to a single action Army. It's the most iconic single action revolver there is. Not to take nothing away from the diamond back, but I just like all the flavors of the Black Hawk. You, you can pretty much get one in anything you want.
Hunter (00:27:42):
Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, even 30 Carine
Travis (00:27:44):
Or 41 Mag.
Hunter (00:27:45):
41 Mag. Yeah. 30 Carine and 41. Yeah. Yeah. It's
Patrick (00:27:49):
Crazy. I think they also did a 10 millimeter. Yep. It was con convertible. It was a 10 millimeter 40.
Travis (00:27:55):
40 and 10
Hunter (00:27:55):
Millimeter. 40 and 10 millimeter. Wasn't it
Patrick (00:27:57):
Uhuh? It was, um, it was a 38 40 30, that's
Hunter (00:28:00):
Right.
Patrick (00:28:00):
Oh, that's right. 38 40 and a 10 millimeter. That's right. Oh, 38 40 was 38 caliber. No, it's not.
Travis (00:28:05):
Didn't they do one like a Buckeye? It was a 38 55 or something like that called a Buckeye special.
Hunter (00:28:10):
Yeah, they did.
Travis (00:28:12):
It was made by Buckeye Sports like a distributor. It was real, it was a collectible. It was a dis
Hunter (00:28:16):
Distributor special or something. Yeah.
Patrick (00:28:19):
Wasn't that the one that was a 10 millimeter 38?
Travis (00:28:21):
No, I think that was 38 55.
Hunter (00:28:24):
Hmm. But they did some cool stuff, remember? And they did long barrels, you know, nine and a half inch, uh, up to nine and a half, or 10 and a half inch, half 10 and a half inch. Super Black Hawk.
Patrick (00:28:32):
Remember the single shot version? They did? It was like it was called. Oh yeah. The, uh, Hawkeye, the
Travis (00:28:37):
Hawkey 2 56 Ruger,
Patrick (00:28:39):
Wasn't it 56 Winchester?
Travis (00:28:40):
2 56 Winchester. Yeah.
Patrick (00:28:42):
Yeah. So it was a, it was a, it was a Black Hawk frame with a half of a cylinder basically. Yeah.
Travis (00:28:47):
It was like flat on one side kind of, and
Hunter (00:28:49):
Just lay around and you push it in and took it out and close it back. That's right. It was a single
Patrick (00:28:53):
Shot.
Hunter (00:28:53):
Yeah. Damn. Didn't see many of those come through.
Patrick (00:28:56):
No. I mean it's one of those things. You might have
Travis (00:28:58):
Seen two in my career here. Yeah,
Hunter (00:29:00):
Exactly.
Patrick (00:29:01):
It's one of those things that I don't think had mass appeal into kind of faded away. But you talking about, you talking about cool. And something that you just don't see anybody else doing.
Travis (00:29:09):
And I don't know about y'all. I like the old flat tops with no transfer bar safety in the four clicks. Yeah.
Hunter (00:29:15):
Just
Mike (00:29:15):
Like a cold. They made a huge difference.
Travis (00:29:16):
Oh yeah.
Patrick (00:29:17):
Pre screw three
Hunter (00:29:17):
Screws. Yeah. People
Mike (00:29:18):
Would always say never send back your Ruger for any kind of work. They're gonna update it with transfer bar. They still will. They'll send you the other parts back. They, to this day, they will change it out whether you ask
Hunter (00:29:27):
It or not. That's right. Yeah. I have to where were Blackhawk, I think that's three zero on the Black Hawk. It's
Travis (00:29:34):
Up to who?
Hunter (00:29:34):
That's easy. That's up to me,
Mike (00:29:36):
Frank. The Black Hawk. I'm,
Hunter (00:29:37):
I'm still the only
Mike (00:29:38):
Thing about the Black Hawk versus the diamond back. When you pick up and you cock the gun, you get the, the big clunks with the Ruger and the diamond back is just smooth as sill and butter. If you're, if you're like <laugh>, if you're like that, you know, that's, that's a tough thing.
Hunter (00:29:54):
Yeah. I mean, diamond back's are beautiful guns. So Rim rimfire, they did a long rifle, then they do a Magnum
Travis (00:29:59):
Only gripe. I special diamond back. If you had big hands, the grip don't feel right. That's
Mike (00:30:04):
True. It, it's basically Aly to test that special. There's shorter
Travis (00:30:06):
Grip. It's got a different curvature on the front. And when I grab one, it feels like my finger feels are all scrunched up. Yeah.
Hunter (00:30:12):
It feels like a busily Black Hawk. <laugh>. Like a little mini. Like a mini
Travis (00:30:15):
Even shorter. Even
Hunter (00:30:16):
Shorter. Yeah, like a shorter one. Yeah. Yeah. Because
Frankie (00:30:18):
Doesn't The grip, didn't the grips have that little, like dimple cutout on both sides or
Mike (00:30:21):
Something like that? Yeah. You know what? I hate the diamond background <laugh>.
Travis (00:30:25):
Where's one of them? I love the look. I hate the grip. Yeah.
Mike (00:30:28):
Yeah.
Hunter (00:30:28):
Well, you know, it's one of these things, you, your Python grip beauty doesn't last forever because you know, COLS, they're just not making these anymore. Wait, I
Mike (00:30:34):
Know that. Look at me. Look at, look at what I've turned into. You know? God. No,
Travis (00:30:38):
I wasn't gonna say anything. What was the John Wayne movie? He was a detective. He
Mike (00:30:41):
Had the Rangan, Branigan
Travis (00:30:42):
Had a Diamond back and what
Mike (00:30:44):
Was it, the other one? McQue. McQue. <laugh>.
Travis (00:30:47):
Now Steve McQueen and Bullet, what did he have? Was that a diamond back or a short barrel Python?
Mike (00:30:52):
Ooh, I thought he had the three inch Python. Okay.
Travis (00:30:54):
Yeah, we'll get to that in, we'll,
Hunter (00:30:56):
We'll get to that
Mike (00:30:56):
Shot. The dude in the watched a couple movies. We've
Travis (00:30:59):
San Francisco Airport.
Hunter (00:31:00):
We've gotta, yeah, we've gotta face the music here. Short shortly on that one. All right. So R Blackhawk Ex Advances Advances the Bee Hawk. Uh, alright, let's just keep going up. Uh,
Patrick (00:31:11):
That's, that's a misprint on the one above it.
Hunter (00:31:14):
What, what,
Patrick (00:31:15):
Where number four. Look at number four and
Hunter (00:31:18):
Then look at number three. Oh, uh,
Mike (00:31:20):
B Whoa.
Patrick (00:31:21):
We got like a, we got duplicate somehow. It,
Mike (00:31:23):
Well, we did get a duplicate.
Hunter (00:31:25):
Well, in block seven, well
Patrick (00:31:27):
Block seven compared to block eight.
Hunter (00:31:31):
Hmm.
Travis (00:31:31):
Fire the commissioner,
Mike (00:31:33):
Huh?
Patrick (00:31:34):
Dammit. Hunter, where
Travis (00:31:36):
The
Mike (00:31:36):
Safest, most secure? Oh seven eight Texas Special GP 100.
Travis (00:31:40):
Yeah. Well I thought we were
Patrick (00:31:41):
Putting something else there.
Mike (00:31:43):
Was it the, I thought we were gonna put in the charter arms. I thought, I
Patrick (00:31:45):
Thought so too. The charter
Travis (00:31:46):
Arm chic lady,
Mike (00:31:48):
Not the chic <laugh>
Travis (00:31:49):
The undercover.
Mike (00:31:50):
Oh no, the, are we gonna do the
Travis (00:31:51):
44 Special Bull?
Mike (00:31:53):
The Bulldog 44 Son of Sam
Hunter (00:31:55):
Special. That's right. That was supposed to get
Mike (00:31:57):
Bulldog was supposed to Bulldog Bull
Patrick (00:31:59):
<laugh>. All right, so we're marking that out and we're going, we're gonna mark out
Mike (00:32:02):
Special.
Hunter (00:32:03):
Okay. So the son of Sam's gun made it, the Charter Arm's 44 Special Bulldog. Correct. There's, it is taken on black
Mike (00:32:09):
Lab in the
Hunter (00:32:09):
Room, in the room, and it's taken and it only got a four seed because it's just well known. And, uh, it's taken on the Ruger GP 100 and Commissioner screwed up the brackets. Sorry. Sorry. We, we, we only had like 15 minutes, but I'm just gonna, I'm gonna go ahead and I'm gonna start this one off. There's no way a Charter Arms Bulldog <laugh> is better than a rigger gp. 100 <laugh>. I'm just gonna say that. So you know where my vote is. Show up hands.
Travis (00:32:36):
<laugh> Hunter. They melted some nice tuna fish cans.
Various (00:32:40):
<laugh>.
Hunter (00:32:41):
So Travis, you go Next.
Travis (00:32:44):
First Gun I bought when I was 21 was a Jeep
Hunter (00:32:46):
Hundred.
Various (00:32:47):
No,
Travis (00:32:48):
Gp. Gp. My dad would've kicked me out the house. <laugh>. He was a Smith guy. He wanted to do it. Cause I bought a Ruger. <laugh>.
Hunter (00:32:57):
We used to remember we had to draw a straw. All right. Who's gonna testify this? Trotter Arms in the, in the snail <laugh>.
Various (00:33:02):
That's right. Flathead
Mike (00:33:03):
Screws to hold a frame together. Yeah. That inspires confidence.
Hunter (00:33:07):
All right. So it's,
Travis (00:33:08):
They are 100 hundred percent American made. I'll give them that. They, they are,
Hunter (00:33:11):
That
Travis (00:33:12):
We're just having fun. Jotter arms makes a good problem. They're
Hunter (00:33:14):
Still around too. That's right. They're still around there.
Frankie (00:33:16):
Their logo was a, a charter or something like the Plymouth Rock chart or something. Wasn't it? Some kind. It
Various (00:33:21):
Was, that's exactly,
Frankie (00:33:21):
That's right, wasn't it? Yeah. Yeah.
Hunter (00:33:23):
You're really showing your age now, Frank.
Travis (00:33:24):
Yeah. No kidding. <laugh>,
Patrick (00:33:26):
We're not gonna go there. Yeah.
Various (00:33:27):
<laugh>, were you
Frankie (00:33:28):
Here? The
Travis (00:33:28):
Guy house come and shoot himself with the bulletproof vests.
Various (00:33:32):
What?
Hunter (00:33:33):
No,
Frankie (00:33:33):
I, I was, that was before my
Travis (00:33:35):
Time. Guy used to come in and he'd try to sell us bulletproof vests and Pat Hopkins said you could load a gun up and go outside and shoot him with it. <laugh>. But Cecil wouldn't let nobody do it cause he's afraid of insurance.
Various (00:33:47):
Oh my God. Wow. That guy's job sucks. I'll
Travis (00:33:53):
Give one thing money. My man has a thousand percent faith in his product. Didn't No
Various (00:33:57):
Kidding. Had a lot of bruises. <laugh>.
Hunter (00:34:00):
He either had the
Frankie (00:34:01):
Shortest or the longest career in the firearms industry.
Hunter (00:34:03):
How have I not heard this story? He probably,
Travis (00:34:06):
He probably sold so many. Cuz people are like, no, man, I ain't gonna do that, but I'll buy.
Various (00:34:11):
Yeah. Oh my God. That's you Scissor.
Mike (00:34:14):
What? Do you sign a release in case I actually kill you? I don't
Travis (00:34:17):
Know. This was like in the seventies in trouble. I can remember Pat telling us the stories years ago.
Frankie (00:34:21):
There was no really signing releases in the seventies. I can promise. Could
Various (00:34:24):
You
Mike (00:34:24):
Imagine? Come on in, bring that 29 out
Various (00:34:27):
Here. Let's,
Hunter (00:34:28):
I don't care if it's a 44 Magnum. Give, gimme all you got. My
Mike (00:34:31):
God. Would you imagine walking? Are you okay, man? Y All
Various (00:34:33):
Right. <laugh>.
Travis (00:34:35):
Johnny Knoxville. Ain't nothing on that guy.
Various (00:34:37):
<laugh>.
Hunter (00:34:39):
Geez. Oh man. Oh my
Various (00:34:41):
God. Sweating. All
Hunter (00:34:43):
Right. Back to the Bulldog. <laugh>.
Various (00:34:45):
Holy.
Hunter (00:34:48):
All right. So, oh my God. Who's GP? 100 <laugh>.
Mike (00:34:53):
Everybody lines like, guess what? The full profess reps here. Oh
Hunter (00:34:56):
My God. God. All right. I took GP 100. Travis took GP hundred.
Various (00:35:01):
<laugh>. I'm GP
Hunter (00:35:02):
100. You're going gp. Oh yeah.
Various (00:35:04):
You have to go gp because like the, the
Patrick (00:35:06):
Charter arms in 44 specials, the ammo costs more than the guns.
Various (00:35:09):
<laugh>, <laugh>,
Hunter (00:35:11):
<laugh>,
Frankie (00:35:13):
Frankie, I can't even find 44 special anymore. G
Hunter (00:35:15):
Gps are still around too.
Frankie (00:35:17):
GP 100.
Hunter (00:35:18):
All right, let's move on.
Various (00:35:19):
<laugh>
Frankie (00:35:20):
Bulldog, you were here for a short time. We appreciate
Various (00:35:22):
It. <laugh>,
Mike (00:35:23):
You got an honorable mention. All
Hunter (00:35:25):
Right. GP 100 moves on. All right, we got two more to, before we go to the, uh, I guess the final eight. Oh God. Elite eight. Elite Eight. Yeah. Elite Eight. So we got the Smith Model 19 slash 66 versus the Scofield. Okay. Uh, my gardener, take it away.
Mike (00:35:41):
I've gotta go K Frame Smith and Wesson.
Hunter (00:35:44):
And what's that on the table?
Mike (00:35:45):
That is a K frame model 66.
Patrick (00:35:48):
That's beauty right there.
Mike (00:35:49):
Absolutely gorgeous. That's, that's lovely. Not that the Scofield wouldn't be lovely if it was laying there, but that gun has been carried by who knows how many police officers over the years before everybody went to automatics.
Hunter (00:36:01):
By the way, the, the, there's a gun in the room. It's on the table and it has not hurt anyone so far. That's
Mike (00:36:08):
Right. Correct.
Travis (00:36:09):
Anderson a beautiful, beautiful old retro bianchi holster.
Hunter (00:36:12):
Absolutely lefthanded. Left-handed. Left-handed, by the way,
Travis (00:36:16):
With the strap across the hammer. Like
Hunter (00:36:19):
When
Travis (00:36:19):
I see cops when I was a kid,
Hunter (00:36:20):
It's
Mike (00:36:21):
Spectacular. Yeah. Think about Beauford T Justice when he walked up and he snapped a holster on this one. Yeah, that's exactly what it is.
Travis (00:36:27):
But Beauford Pusser had a cold trooper.
Mike (00:36:29):
Well, he did. And a,
Frankie (00:36:31):
And a big baseball
Hunter (00:36:31):
Bat. And the cold trooper, the cold trooper got an honorable mention. We'll talk about
Patrick (00:36:36):
That later. You, I said somehow you sounded taller on the phone.
Mike (00:36:39):
Oh no, we're not going there. Yeah. <laugh>, you sounded a little tall on the radio.
Patrick (00:36:43):
<laugh>
Mike (00:36:43):
On track. Oof.
Hunter (00:36:44):
<laugh>. Alright. Uh, Patrick, you're next Smith 19 or the Scofield?
Patrick (00:36:51):
Uh, definitely the 19. I, I can never vote for a top break. Anything against the K frame Smith, it's not gonna happen. Well, I actually did before, but that was 38. But when it comes to three seven Magnum, uh, top 11. So when it comes to 3 57 Magnum K frames. Yeah, definitely. It's definitely nineteens
Hunter (00:37:09):
For Frankie.
Frankie (00:37:12):
I would definitely go with the 19 Hunter. I don't know if you remember one time I was at home and I was just thinking, I said, what don't I have, I don't have a double action. 3 57 4 inch revolver. That's right. And I came in and was telling Hunter that, and he goes, we had one come in last night or yesterday and point to the counter and I bought it and I still have it today. And that's my gun that everybody should own. Probably over the, just the, you said the 6 86 4 inch mm-hmm. <affirmative>. But I just, it, to me it's a little bit sleeker. Doesn't look bulky. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. I just, I just love that piece. So it's
Hunter (00:37:46):
A classic
Frankie (00:37:46):
19. It is.
Hunter (00:37:48):
Yes. And it's 3 57 Magnum, uh,
Mike (00:37:52):
Also shoot 30 eights in it, so. Right. That's
Frankie (00:37:54):
Right. Target. Shoot, hunt with it if you had
Hunter (00:37:56):
To. I'm going 19 two Travis. 19 or 66. Either way. Absolutely. Yeah. All right. So the Smith advances, uh, that's quite a, uh, matchup here on the next round Smith 19 slash 66 versus the GP 100.
Patrick (00:38:10):
Ooh,
Hunter (00:38:11):
That's gonna be tough. Well, but the one we've been kind of avoiding,
Frankie (00:38:14):
We've been avoiding
Hunter (00:38:16):
Is the number one seated cult Python versus the Smith and Wesson 27 28. Who wants to start this one off?
Mike (00:38:25):
Ah,
Patrick (00:38:27):
I will.
Hunter (00:38:27):
All right. Go.
Patrick (00:38:28):
All right. I tell you what, um, I'm a huge Smith fan, but I tell you I gotta go Python. I have to, I have to. The Python, the, the action, the barrel, the craftsmanship, uh, the Walking Dead. I mean, I, I have to get the Python.
Mike (00:38:42):
Not to mention Ken <laugh>. Who? Sarkin Hutch. Ken Hutchin had a six inch python back in the day in the seventies, remember? Well,
Patrick (00:38:49):
I couldn't, I had to go to bed earlier. I was, I was only
Mike (00:38:51):
That's right. That's right. You're
Hunter (00:38:53):
A
Mike (00:38:53):
Lot younger than I am. I'm
Patrick (00:38:54):
Sorry, your friends. Let me stay up.
Mike (00:38:55):
Forgot about that.
Frankie (00:38:56):
That show was made in color, by the way. Oh, was
Patrick (00:38:58):
It? Mm-hmm.
Hunter (00:38:59):
<affirmative>.
Patrick (00:39:01):
I wouldn't know. <laugh>,
Hunter (00:39:03):
Uh, Frankie,
Frankie (00:39:05):
I think I'm going with the Python as well. Uhuh. I just, it
Hunter (00:39:09):
Interesting.
Frankie (00:39:10):
Yeah. I'm going with the Python. I can't explain it, but there it is.
Hunter (00:39:16):
Mike or Travis, do you wanna go next?
Mike (00:39:17):
Um, I'm definitely gotta say Python as well. As much as you love a nice clean 27 now, the 27 stronger, I would say it's probably as accurate shooting as far as quality of gun, but that Python is something special. Yeah,
Hunter (00:39:31):
I think 20
Patrick (00:39:32):
Sevens hammer and zombies.
Hunter (00:39:33):
Man. I've always liked 20 sevens. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. I like how they look. The frame size though. It's big. The
Mike (00:39:38):
Strength of that is pretty impressive.
Hunter (00:39:40):
Like you said, it's a, it's a, it's a big piece of steel to, to carry around in a holster. And, uh, you know, the blueing, whether it's, or it's a ultimate stainless or whatever it is, on a Python, they just, man, they are just beautiful, beautiful revolvers. I'm going, I'm going Python as well, Travis. Yeah, I'm,
Travis (00:39:56):
I'm going with the Python, the beautiful lines of it. The vent rib.
Mike (00:40:00):
I need a second.
Travis (00:40:01):
Multiple
Patrick (00:40:02):
Finishes. Smoking. Hot.
Travis (00:40:03):
Golly. I'm, I mean, I like the old blue ones with the wood grips, but the ultimate stainless, something about it.
Mike (00:40:10):
Oh my God. And the nickel plate, like you were saying earlier,
Travis (00:40:13):
Col
Mike (00:40:13):
Plaing is unmatched.
Travis (00:40:15):
Yeah. And when you cock one, there's nothing like it. I mean, it's like a feather. Yeah. Yeah. So, and they shoot well, too. I will give them that. Oh,
Mike (00:40:24):
That's true. I remember you're four inch, they're shooting. Okay. Amazing
Hunter (00:40:28):
Python advances to take on the Smith 29. Uh,
Mike (00:40:31):
I'm gonna need a break before we go to this one. I need a cold drink.
Hunter (00:40:35):
Yeah, we're, we're coming back to that one. Maybe
Mike (00:40:37):
A towel. <laugh>, maybe.
Hunter (00:40:40):
All right, let's go back down to the bottom.
Mike (00:40:42):
Catch your forehead. Yeah, please. Thank you.
Hunter (00:40:45):
We're down to the Elite eight. We got the, uh, Ruger Blackhawk versus the Smith J. Frame 36 60. How in the world, single action against each other versus double action. Um, I believe I'll start this one off cuz this, uh, I'm going, I'm going Black Hawk 36 s and sixties are great. They're five shots. There's, they're still around. I get that. But I, I, I, you know, talking about the Black Hawk and the history and there's kind of how strong and uh, you know, they're how rugged they are. Durable. They are. I'm going Black
Patrick (00:41:22):
Hawk's. I tell you what I mean.
Hunter (00:41:23):
I don't think I'm gonna get shut. Crazy. No, I'm gonna get shut out. I know that. No Uhuh Patrick. I don't know.
Frankie (00:41:27):
I'm not sure there's any right or
Hunter (00:41:28):
Wrong answers, not point Travis.
Travis (00:41:30):
Yeah. I, I love a black hawk, but if I'm going to the store at 10 o'clock at night, I'm not shoving my Black Hawk in my pocket. <laugh>.
Mike (00:41:38):
That would be cool. I'll take
Travis (00:41:39):
My J frame.
Mike (00:41:41):
They'll see
Travis (00:41:41):
You coming. It's got a little bit better everyday purpose for me. I get bored with a single action when I shoot a lot cuz the, the, the time it takes to load and unload with the gate and the rod. It's cool. But I, I will go J frame,
Patrick (00:41:57):
I'm going Black Hawk man. I tell you, it's just the versatility of it and reliability of it being like a single action. And when the grizzlies like chewing my leg off, I want something that I think I can stop it with. Yeah.
Mike (00:42:09):
But if you're going in the woods with a grizzly, you're not gonna go, Hey, gimme my 36, 38, I'll be fine.
Travis (00:42:14):
No, I'm say gimme my 3 75 H and each
Hunter (00:42:16):
Yeah. That's just
Frankie (00:42:17):
Poor planning on your part. <laugh>.
Hunter (00:42:22):
All right. So it's two to, it's two to one Black Hawk, uh, Mike G
Mike (00:42:29):
No, it's not. Is it two to one
Travis (00:42:30):
Blackhawk? Yeah. Yeah. Patrick and Patrick Punter versus me. Ah,
Mike (00:42:34):
Yeah. Well I'm, I'm still thinking 36 is, you know, the, the Blackhawks fine, but the refinement of Smith and Wesson, especially at that time period to Rugers just gets me,
Patrick (00:42:48):
You gotta think about the Grizzly man. Do not, not shut out the grizzly <laugh>.
Mike (00:42:51):
I am going to reason with the grizzly
Patrick (00:42:54):
Name
Frankie (00:42:55):
Pretty prevalent in these parts, by the way.
Hunter (00:42:57):
Chief
Travis (00:42:57):
Special man, I mean industry gave it a name.
Hunter (00:43:00):
Yeah.
Mike (00:43:02):
I gotta go the Smith and wasn't Chief special.
Hunter (00:43:04):
Oh man. So it is,
Travis (00:43:06):
It's up to
Hunter (00:43:06):
Frankie. It's up to Frankie, the tiebreaker.
Frankie (00:43:09):
And on the grizzly question, I just have to outrun you Patrick <laugh>.
Patrick (00:43:13):
So the Smith will be fine. <laugh>,
Hunter (00:43:15):
I'll shoot you with my Smith <laugh>.
Frankie (00:43:20):
Uh, here it is. I'm I I'm going with the 36 as well.
Hunter (00:43:23):
All right. There it
Mike (00:43:24):
Is. There it is there. It
Hunter (00:43:28):
Smith. 36 60 advances to the final four.
Mike (00:43:33):
Oh boy. Oh boy. I need a cool drink. This is getting, I think
Travis (00:43:36):
It probably should be iconic guys.
Hunter (00:43:38):
It is. I think so.
Travis (00:43:39):
I mean, it's, look at everything. It's spa like we talked about mm-hmm. <affirmative>.
Hunter (00:43:44):
Um, just above that. We gotta get this one out of the way. This is probably, this is tough. All I, a lot of people listening were probably thinking No, it's not. It's an easy decision, but it's the Smith 1966 versus the GP 100, which they're almost, it's like the Chevy Silverado versus the F-150. I mean, they're almost
Patrick (00:44:05):
Cousins. That's right.
Hunter (00:44:06):
Yeah. Mm-hmm. Tit for tat. I
Travis (00:44:07):
Don't know. To me the GP always rival the 6 86 more.
Hunter (00:44:10):
Yeah. I guess you're right. Yeah. You
Travis (00:44:11):
See mo time with the full under lug and it Right. The weight of it.
Mike (00:44:16):
Yeah. I agree.
Hunter (00:44:17):
Who would like to start this one off?
Mike (00:44:18):
I, I'll just say, I'm just gonna go Smith and Wesson. 1960.
Frankie (00:44:22):
19. I'm getting outta the way. I'm jumping in. I'm going with the 19 as well. I, I,
Mike (00:44:25):
You just have to Okay. Because well, and I feel sorry, I, I feel kind of guilty. I feel bad. Ruger be upset. G 100 is a great gun, but still is. It's not a Smith 19 or 66. It's not a smith ca ring.
Patrick (00:44:39):
I tell you, I mean, I agree with you in every single point you just made until I come across the GP 100,
Mike (00:44:46):
Everybody he was gonna say until I come across the grizzly again. I know what you're gonna say.
Patrick (00:44:49):
Like gu stainless one they did back in the nineties.
Travis (00:44:51):
Yeah, the high. Yeah.
Patrick (00:44:52):
They, they did like a high Polish lu stainless
Mike (00:44:55):
Steel. So they did one that was kind of nice. You just like
Travis (00:44:58):
Bling.
Patrick (00:44:59):
I do, I do man. I, I, I do like my bedazzle stuff, but I'll tell you what,
Mike (00:45:04):
Um, your jeans are nice, by the way. You have one today. You did a good job on that. <laugh>. I don't
Patrick (00:45:08):
Have conchos or anything on my jeans. Very good. But seriously, uh, a G code, hundred and brightest downs.
Mike (00:45:13):
Okay. Does it,
Patrick (00:45:14):
If, if we ever get one through here on trade anytime, I'm positively gonna buy it. I haven't seen one for probably 10 or 15 years. Easy.
Hunter (00:45:22):
So you're going GP 100?
Patrick (00:45:25):
No.
Mike (00:45:26):
<laugh> having
Patrick (00:45:29):
A stainless one. Yes. Other than no, I'm definitely going 19. Okay.
Hunter (00:45:33):
<laugh>,
Patrick (00:45:34):
Isn't that one rare exception.
Hunter (00:45:36):
Yeah. Travis, I think you're probably,
Travis (00:45:40):
Oh, I'm going 1966. Yeah. But I will say this one thing I do love about a Ruger and a lot of people don't really talk about it. I like how you opened the cylinder.
Mike (00:45:50):
Yeah. Oh, the bush. Just, just
Travis (00:45:52):
Push the button. Yeah. Yeah. I I just think that's a really good simple design. Functional,
Hunter (00:45:57):
Very functional.
Travis (00:45:57):
Yeah. Still, I'm not gonna base my decision on that. I 1966, I'm like Patrick said about the 6 86, if I could only win one handgun, it'd be a four inch K frame. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> 3 57.
Hunter (00:46:09):
Yeah. 19 or 66. Yeah. Okay.
Patrick (00:46:12):
There's something else we need to say about the Ruger. The G 100 s are easy to do, like trigger jobs on, they have that, uh, coal spring and, and the
Travis (00:46:20):
Yeah. The frame kind of, the trigger group kind of drops out of them.
Patrick (00:46:23):
Right. And you can buy aftermarket springs and lighten it up. I mean it's, it's simple.
Mike (00:46:27):
One thing that's, I didn't ever knew this about the rugers until somebody pointed out to me. There's not a single screw in the exterior of that gun. Mm-hmm. Red Hawk either. There are no screws.
Travis (00:46:36):
Also, it's a cast frame. They pour that frame in a Yeah.
Mike (00:46:40):
It's held all pressure held together.
Travis (00:46:42):
And also, I never, never, if you look at a GP 100 Smith used to make something called a triple lock, which you see on their performance center guns, they have at ball de tent on a GP 100. When you look at the crane where it goes up into the frame, it's got like a little, I don't know what you call, it's a little piece that locks up in the frame to give it even more stability. It's
Patrick (00:47:02):
Called a du Flicky. Yeah.
Travis (00:47:04):
<laugh>. I don't know what the gunsmith terms are, but it's just more strength added
Patrick (00:47:09):
There. That's a du Flicky
Hunter (00:47:10):
Gun. Gunsmith probably calls it a little tit or something like that. Yeah.
Mike (00:47:13):
Yeah.
Hunter (00:47:13):
Exactly. Uh, I'm going, I'd have to go 1966 as well. I'm a big fan of that. Two and a half inch 66. They did. Or the 19, either one. Um, and you know, or
Mike (00:47:24):
The incredibly rare three inch 66 round
Hunter (00:47:28):
Button round, but inch with
Mike (00:47:29):
Combat wood grips. I know where one of those is. Yeah.
Frankie (00:47:31):
Well, you're safe
Mike (00:47:33):
And did, I don't wanna say that, but
Hunter (00:47:35):
Yeah. And you know they did a 13, correct? They did the 13 was the I know where a
Mike (00:47:39):
13 is too.
Hunter (00:47:40):
Yeah, that's right. You got a 13.
Frankie (00:47:41):
I do have
Hunter (00:47:41):
A, a thirteens a fixed site. Yeah. 13
Travis (00:47:45):
And 65.
Hunter (00:47:46):
65. Yeah. Oh, what
Travis (00:47:47):
A 19 and a 66 are just with fixed sites. Right,
Hunter (00:47:50):
Exactly. Yeah. Um, so yeah. And remember
Travis (00:47:52):
Anything Smith that starts with a six stainless
Hunter (00:47:55):
Yeah.
Travis (00:47:57):
No matter what model we talking about. Correct. Even semi-autos.
Hunter (00:48:00):
Yep. Um, okay. So Smith and Wesson 19 advances, and it's gonna take on, it's, uh,
Travis (00:48:08):
It's gonna whip its Little Brother's tail.
Mike (00:48:10):
<laugh>. Yeah. <laugh>.
Hunter (00:48:12):
I'm taking on the J frame 36. Uh, all right, so up above
Mike (00:48:17):
Boy. These next
Hunter (00:48:17):
Two, these next two are will be tough buddy. I'm gonna tell you
Mike (00:48:20):
I need an energy drink.
Hunter (00:48:21):
All right. The Colt Single Action Army versus the Smith and Wesson 6 86. I know
Mike (00:48:25):
Where I'm going,
Hunter (00:48:26):
Which is an L frame. I'm
Mike (00:48:27):
Just, I know where
Hunter (00:48:28):
I'm going. L frames. All right, so let's get this squared away First. 6 86. 5, 86. It's still a six shot. Um, originally 87. Originally seven now. Yeah. Yeah. It comes in seven now. Uh, but it's just an up upsize to the 19 and the 66. A little bit bigger frame, correct.
Patrick (00:48:46):
Yeah. Correct. Meant to handle the Magnum letters better.
Hunter (00:48:48):
Yeah.
Mike (00:48:49):
It'll actually uses the same grips as a K frame revolver. Yeah. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>.
Hunter (00:48:52):
So K or L frame. Correct. Okay. Who wants to start this one off? I
Mike (00:48:58):
I'm
Hunter (00:48:58):
Gonna start. Oh, you're gonna start.
Mike (00:48:59):
Oh, I'm gonna start.
Hunter (00:48:59):
Oh, go right ahead. I know I
Mike (00:49:01):
Should go pick. I'm gonna pick the single action Army. I knew you would. The Colt Single Action Army. And we all know why.
Hunter (00:49:07):
It's an excellent choice. It
Mike (00:49:08):
Is.
Hunter (00:49:09):
Why?
Mike (00:49:09):
I just look <laugh>. Frankie doesn't know why.
Frankie (00:49:11):
I don't know why Explain to She
Patrick (00:49:13):
Wants to wear chaps,
Frankie (00:49:14):
<laugh>, chap less
Patrick (00:49:15):
Adjust it like cowboy <laugh>.
Hunter (00:49:18):
All right. Mike's going Single action Army, single
Mike (00:49:20):
Action Army. Patrick, for all of the obvious reasons, I
Hunter (00:49:22):
Know where you're going with this. Patrick,
Patrick (00:49:24):
Uh, as I said before, 6 86 Smith, man, it's my one. And only if I can only and one gun. It's, that's it.
Mike (00:49:30):
I'm not sharing my microphone with you anymore.
Patrick (00:49:32):
Definitely. Six eighty six. Hmm. Wow. Sorry. Samuel Cole.
Frankie (00:49:38):
Travis, you wanna go?
Travis (00:49:40):
You go ahead.
Frankie (00:49:41):
All right. I'm thinking on the iconic meter.
Hunter (00:49:46):
Yeah.
Frankie (00:49:46):
Is that a word? Is that a thing? Yeah, sure. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Yes. Today the single action Army. Right
Mike (00:49:52):
On Frankie. Good choice.
Frankie (00:49:54):
<laugh>. However, I think I'm gonna go Mm. With the 6 86 as far as functionality, and that's awful. I just am, I mean, end of the world as we know it. Double six 80, double action over a single action. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>.
Hunter (00:50:13):
I'll go. You want me to go next, Travis? I'm going with the gun that won the west man. That's what
Mike (00:50:18):
I'm talking about.
Hunter (00:50:20):
The single action army. I just, I'm gonna tell you, man, think about
Mike (00:50:23):
George Patton,
Hunter (00:50:24):
Whether they're, I,
Mike (00:50:26):
I'm sure he didn't go. I wish I had a 6 86 <laugh>. Hell, he
Travis (00:50:29):
Would've, they would've been made. That's
Mike (00:50:31):
Right. No, he's true. Had a 27, you know, or a pre 27.
Hunter (00:50:34):
But I'm going on Looks too cuz man, when you look at a cult single action army, oh my. This older new one doesn't matter. I mean, if it's one in the, you know, made in the late 18 hundreds or whatever, man, they still look this awesome.
Mike (00:50:45):
Classically beautiful, spectacular, beautiful. Yeah. Think of John Wayne and then pick the 6 86. Go ahead.
Hunter (00:50:52):
All right. I'm going single action Army.
Mike (00:50:55):
So that's two to 2, 2, 2. Oh, boy,
Travis (00:50:59):
I'm picking the cult. I mean, if we were talking practicality, uh,
Mike (00:51:04):
Absolutely
Travis (00:51:05):
Smith.
Mike (00:51:05):
We're not talking about
Travis (00:51:06):
Iconic single action Army. Hands down all the westerns. It's the gun that changed the world. Really, man. I mean,
Mike (00:51:16):
Changed the world. That's true.
Travis (00:51:18):
You think about it. Yeah.
Mike (00:51:19):
Absolutely.
Frankie (00:51:19):
Made people equal.
Hunter (00:51:20):
Yeah, that's right.
Travis (00:51:23):
Cult single Norm knows
Hunter (00:51:24):
Now. <laugh>
Mike (00:51:26):
<laugh>.
Hunter (00:51:26):
All right. The la the last one. All right. So we, so, so far in the Final
Mike (00:51:32):
Four action is gonna be really tough too. Single
Hunter (00:51:35):
Action Army will take on the winner of this next one. The Colt Python versus the Smith 29. Oh boy.
Mike (00:51:41):
Oh boy. Oh boy.
Hunter (00:51:42):
Frankie, you should start this one off.
Frankie (00:51:45):
Great. <laugh>. Um, I guess I, I'm gonna go up to 29. Wow. Just again, on the iconic meter. I mean, I, that's my story and I'm sticking to it. <laugh>,
Mike (00:52:01):
<laugh>.
Frankie (00:52:02):
I'm gonna have to explain myself to you. People <laugh>, you people
Mike (00:52:06):
<laugh> you is in the eye. Leave you holding as mm-hmm. <affirmative>
Hunter (00:52:10):
Travis.
Travis (00:52:15):
Man, this is tough. The three of the Final Four could easily be number one, but I'm gonna pick the Smith 29. And reason being, all the dirty, hairy movies, listening to the stories of Pat and Downey, talk about how hard they were to get when that movies were out. Yep. Pythons, you know, Colt's been in and outta business and in and outta production. Good old Smith's been cranking out 20 nines forever. And Dirty Harry didn't carry a python. So I'm going Smith 29
Hunter (00:52:49):
Magnum force. Well, who had, who had the Python and Magnum force? The bad guys. The bad
Mike (00:52:52):
Guys. Well, yeah, the motorcycle cops. That's right, that's right. Remember Hora? Oh, well, you wanna met, who
Hunter (00:52:57):
Was one of the cops? Tim, uh, what's his name? It was Tim. Tim Mathson.
Mike (00:53:00):
Timon. Tim Mathson David. So
Travis (00:53:02):
That's Robert Urick. Yeah.
Hunter (00:53:03):
Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Yeah.
Travis (00:53:05):
David Sol.
Frankie (00:53:06):
And who was the fourth one? Kip. Nevin. Kip.
Mike (00:53:09):
Win. Nevin.
Travis (00:53:11):
Yeah. But how Homer was lieutenant.
Mike (00:53:13):
Oh, how? Yeah. Kip.
Frankie (00:53:15):
Kit Ni.
Mike (00:53:16):
Yep. Remember that? How head, though? What's he doing these days? Cut on his head. He
Travis (00:53:20):
Said reruns. Why Lieutenant
Frankie (00:53:22):
Love
Mike (00:53:22):
Boat.
Travis (00:53:23):
Why Lieutenant? You draw your gun. First time
Mike (00:53:25):
He sent your guns out of its holster. First
Travis (00:53:27):
Time, time, <laugh>.
Mike (00:53:28):
How do you not, I'm picking the 29 right now. <laugh>, just jump right over
Travis (00:53:32):
Six and a half inch. 29. That's right.
Hunter (00:53:35):
Damn. So that's 3 29. 3 29.
Mike (00:53:37):
I was
Travis (00:53:37):
Going, go ahead, Patrick. You're voting
Hunter (00:53:39):
On, man, I'm going Python too.
Travis (00:53:41):
What we win? Yeah. The,
Patrick (00:53:44):
The col snake guns. I mean the, the p the collectibility of 'em and Oh, yeah. And the interest that people have 'em is spectacular. It's off the charts and it is off the charts. And the Python is pretty much at the top of that pyramid. That is like the iconic cult snake gun. Yeah. The Python. You had the Cobra. You had a Viper.
Hunter (00:54:04):
It's the Cadillac
Patrick (00:54:04):
Man. Yeah. You had the King Cobra. Yeah. Had Anaconda Ana.
Travis (00:54:08):
Oh, it is. I mean, beauty and, and, and investment. It's the piece.
Patrick (00:54:12):
And I tell you
Travis (00:54:13):
What, but it's not the iconic
Patrick (00:54:15):
From a marketing show
Travis (00:54:16):
Stop. Correct.
Patrick (00:54:16):
I think Colt was genius when they started coming with all these snake models. It, it really, yeah. I mean, that was sharp.
Travis (00:54:23):
Should, like giving it a number.
Patrick (00:54:24):
Yeah. Yeah. They, they, they give the
Hunter (00:54:26):
I'm going Python too. Yeah. So, but we still lose two, two verses three. Mike, you sure you don't want to change your mind? No.
Mike (00:54:33):
<laugh> no. I I can't do it. No.
Hunter (00:54:35):
<laugh>
Travis (00:54:35):
Like I say, man, three of the four could be number one. Sure.
Patrick (00:54:38):
Easy. Actually, I like them all.
Hunter (00:54:40):
I do. All right. So, all right. So the 29 upsets the cult Python moves into the final four. I don't know. It
Mike (00:54:46):
Upsets it. It just,
Hunter (00:54:47):
So it upsets it. I say it upsets it. All right,
Mike (00:54:50):
Well then I guess it upsets it. We in the
Travis (00:54:51):
Final four, are we in the, this is final four. Yeah.
Hunter (00:54:54):
Final four. Yeah. The Model 29 versus the single action Army. And then you got the Smith. I need a cigarette
Mike (00:54:59):
Cuz this is gonna be a battle.
Hunter (00:55:00):
<laugh> Smith 1966 versus the 36 60. Where should we start? Patrick, take it away. Take lower first.
Patrick (00:55:08):
Which one? Uh, somebody do the Smith 19 and Smith 36. I
Hunter (00:55:12):
Would, uh, turn that mic to you.
Patrick (00:55:13):
I would definitely say, uh, the Smith 19.
Hunter (00:55:17):
You're going 19 to go to the
Patrick (00:55:19):
Oh yeah, definitely. Okay. Oh, definitely. Um, K Frame 3 57. A Magnum, uh, available in nickel. I mean, just, yeah. Bling, uh, <laugh>. Yeah. It's, you know, the model 36. I'm not knocking it, but it's just, it's a pocket gun. Great. Whatever. Yeah. I mean, other than that you don't go to that range and brag about how good your 36 shoots. So 19. This is
Hunter (00:55:39):
True. I don't think anyone's ever done that. I haven't. Okay. Mike? No.
Mike (00:55:48):
19 and 66. No question
Hunter (00:55:50):
About it. Okay. Travis.
Travis (00:55:54):
1966. Easily
Hunter (00:55:58):
66. 19 crank. Keeping it real. Absolutely. 19 or 60. I gotta go that way too, man. That's, um, by far the better choice. J frames are nice. Good care, good little carry guns, classics. Uh,
Travis (00:56:10):
The good for what the purpose
Hunter (00:56:10):
Is, you know, cuz if we gotta fall back on the, we didn't talk a whole lot about the J Frames, but there's a lot of, you know, air weight scans, things like that. But also the Lady Smith, a classic gun that for a long time. I mean, how many, how many people used to come in and just, they're looking for a Ladysmith, you know? So, um,
Travis (00:56:27):
Until you say, yeah. But you can get this one for $40 less and then don't say Ladysmith.
Hunter (00:56:31):
That's right. Same thing.
Frankie (00:56:33):
<laugh>. And you don't get, you don't get the,
Hunter (00:56:35):
The
Frankie (00:56:35):
Red bag or what, remember that little Yeah. Maroon bag or whatever. Yeah. Yeah.
Hunter (00:56:42):
All right. So we're going up to the top. The Colt Single Action Army versus the Smith and Wesson 29.
Mike (00:56:49):
I almost wanna disqualify myself from this whole thing.
Hunter (00:56:52):
<laugh>, you can't. Sorry. Oh
Mike (00:56:53):
Boy.
Hunter (00:56:55):
Travis, you start us off on this,
Travis (00:56:57):
Man. I've started off a bunch. All right.
Frankie (00:56:59):
I'll go.
Hunter (00:57:00):
Frankie's going.
Frankie (00:57:01):
I didn't vote for the single action Army earlier, but I'm gonna have to this time just based on, it kind of started everything started, started the ball.
Hunter (00:57:15):
Frank Hamer, so to speak. Frank Hamer carried a single action army.
Frankie (00:57:18):
Yes, he did. Very effectively. He shot
Hunter (00:57:20):
Lots of of guys with that. Yeah.
Frankie (00:57:22):
Yeah. I'm going to the single action Army.
Mike (00:57:26):
I'm not ready. I'm not ready to Okay,
Hunter (00:57:28):
We'll come back to you. I'm
Mike (00:57:29):
Not ready to go. I need
Frankie (00:57:30):
A drink.
Hunter (00:57:31):
Patrick.
Patrick (00:57:32):
Single action Army. All the way. So at, in the in, just like Frankie, I voted against it before cuz I was going against one of my faves. But you know, it's you, you can't deny the history of that gun. And basically mm-hmm. It revolutionized handguns. It just did. Yes, it did. Um, and it, they still make it. They said 150 years later, they're still cranking 'em out.
Frankie (00:57:54):
Can't 'em. Charming. But they still make
Travis (00:57:56):
Two a month.
Patrick (00:57:57):
Yeah.
Frankie (00:57:58):
Can't get 'em.
Patrick (00:57:59):
But they
Hunter (00:58:00):
Right. Mike is sweating army. Mike is sweating Travis. We'll skip, we'll come back to Mike.
Travis (00:58:05):
I'm gonna go single action Army. Like I said earlier, man, it's the gun that, oh, thank God. Changed everything.
Hunter (00:58:10):
I
Travis (00:58:11):
Don't have to change much as I love the 29. Mm-hmm. I'm going cold.
Mike (00:58:15):
I would've done that too. Cold. Single action Army.
Hunter (00:58:17):
I was, I was gonna probably do the same thing. Oh, look
Mike (00:58:19):
At that. Yeah. Straight
Hunter (00:58:20):
Five. Unanimous. Unanimous, unanimous. Single action army chin one or two or three though. <laugh>
Mike (00:58:30):
It need not matter.
Hunter (00:58:31):
Yeah. Shouldn't
Patrick (00:58:32):
Pre 1899.
Hunter (00:58:34):
So, alright, let's ask this questions cuz we have our final, we have the cult single action Army versus the Model 19 Smith and Wesson slash 66. But what barrel length, if you, if you got a cult single action army, what barrel length do you go with? Four
Mike (00:58:47):
And three quarter. Yes.
Patrick (00:58:49):
Four and three quarter. I second that
Travis (00:58:52):
Man.
Hunter (00:58:54):
I'm going five and a half.
Mike (00:58:56):
Five and a half is a compromise gun.
Travis (00:58:58):
Well, are you're a gun fighter or I mean, it's, well, what was it?
Mike (00:59:01):
Sure that's true. It
Frankie (00:59:02):
Was four and three quarter or six.
Mike (00:59:03):
Well, remember the seven and a half inch barrel was the, was the cavalry remodel gun. Yeah.
Travis (00:59:07):
I'm not a big seven and a half guy on that. I I like
Mike (00:59:10):
Five half was the ar artillery guys, the guy's loading the cannons and shooting the cannons. The calvary seven was the, the Calv recorder. The seven and a half. Yeah. The, the four three quarter was the sheriff called the sheriff's model. But then you saw three inch guns and stuff come out later call that. Yeah. But it was the, the police model and it was the civilian model. But it balances the best and feels the best of all three
Patrick (00:59:31):
Models. I think it just looks cool because the barrel stops at the end of the, uh,
Mike (00:59:35):
Eject houses
Hunter (00:59:36):
Ejector
Patrick (00:59:36):
House. It just, yeah.
Hunter (00:59:38):
I, I go four, three quarter. I won't deny that. And the balance on the 40 fives may, unless you're an idiot, might change by one in 38. Then the balance changes. Patrick outta all the, all the <laugh> out, all the ones all you have
Mike (00:59:50):
One in eight,
Hunter (00:59:52):
Sorry. Should have got the original <laugh> outta all the guns you bought Patrick, you bought a lot of guns in the collections and stuff. Does any particular cult stand out to you?
Patrick (01:00:07):
Man, that's a tough question.
Hunter (01:00:08):
I mean, you've had some, a lot of engraved stuff, some rare stuff, but I mean, you've had, we've had some old stuff too. I mean, some super rare early, early, early stuff.
Patrick (01:00:17):
I actually have two back in my office right now. I actually have two, uh, pre 1899 Colt, US military guns back there. Wow. Nice.
Hunter (01:00:24):
Yeah. Wow. In good shape. Wow.
Patrick (01:00:26):
Uh, they're, I mean, for, for their age. Yeah. Yeah. But you started telling my guns they're made in 1870s and 1880s. Sure. I mean,
Hunter (01:00:33):
These are no
Mike (01:00:34):
Plus p rounds in those, right?
Hunter (01:00:35):
Yeah. <laugh>.
Patrick (01:00:36):
Yeah. No. So, I mean, but they're great. Uh, basically one is still, uh, got the long barrel on. The other one's been cut down for the artillery model five and a half inch.
Hunter (01:00:48):
So nice.
Patrick (01:00:49):
Yeah, they're pretty sweet. Cool. I like 'em.
Hunter (01:00:52):
All right. Well now it's, we're down to the final. This is, this is a nice matchup. Old versus new.
Patrick (01:00:59):
I'm just gonna flip a quarter on this one.
Hunter (01:01:01):
This is tough, man. And I really, you know, Mike, I know you're not gonna wanna start this off. Um, unless you, unless you want to.
Mike (01:01:11):
I'm going to, and I'm going to say the Colt Single Action Army
Hunter (01:01:15):
As wearing Smith and we hole
Mike (01:01:16):
As hat. I have my Smith and Wesson Garon. I love Smith and Wesson. Your
Hunter (01:01:19):
66 is right in front of you. It's
Mike (01:01:20):
Right in front of me. And it understands it. It, look at it, it said, I understand
Hunter (01:01:26):
It's not
Mike (01:01:26):
Said, I am not worthy of the Colt Single Action Army. I'm like, calm down. Yes you are. Okay. But single action, army iconic single action Army. Okay.
Hunter (01:01:39):
Frankie, I, the one that started it all, single action Army. Ooh. Two. Oh mm. Patrick leaning in Patrick's leaning in, I think what Patrick wants to go the stuff.
Mike (01:01:57):
And you're going, wow. Is that a second generation single army?
Patrick (01:01:59):
I'm, I'm just, I'm just a
Mike (01:02:00):
Smith 19
Patrick (01:02:01):
Box. I'm I'm just envisioning right now, I'm, I'm, I'm envisioning a cult single action army with single piece ivory grips. Oh my God. Nickel played it
Hunter (01:02:10):
Four and three Core four and three core. And you know, and think about that. Why not engrave it? Think about how well
Patrick (01:02:15):
Single piece ivory. Oh wow.
Hunter (01:02:17):
Think about how well made that thing was in, you know, oh, the eight, late 18 hundreds. It's a
Patrick (01:02:22):
Work of art. Yeah, definitely. A hundred percent. Um, man bear's not attacking me. So I, I'll go, I'll go ahead and go go with the Colt Single Action Army. But I agree with Travis. You, you have to get it in 45 if, if you get him anything else, it feel like a brick. I mean, it's too heavy. Mean 44 40. That was very popular. Yeah. If you enjoy spending $70 for a box of ammo, congratulations. <laugh>, back then, you know, it was like it's 14 cents and you got a box of
Travis (01:02:46):
Fish unless you're cast your bullets.
Patrick (01:02:48):
Yeah, man. We're not doing that <laugh>. So single mean 45
Hunter (01:02:53):
I guess the Travis.
Travis (01:02:55):
Yeah. We've come this far. I'm not gonna back off now. Even though I'm a Smith guy. It's me too. It's still iconic.
Hunter (01:03:01):
I was going single action army myself. So, uh, I just, uh, woo. I think they're just, they're really hard to beat.
Patrick (01:03:09):
And the crazy thing is like, so this wasn't even planned. So I'm actually surprised that Colt made it to the number one spot. I, I really am. Cuz we have a bunch of just really cool guns to pick from. Yeah.
Hunter (01:03:18):
I mean, just look back on this list.
Travis (01:03:20):
Well, I mean that's what the list was the most iconic, iconic everyone on here That's right. Is an iconic gun. Yep. And when you get down to eight and four, I mean any of those,
Hunter (01:03:29):
Well, let's
Travis (01:03:29):
Talk great pieces.
Hunter (01:03:30):
Yeah. And, and let's go
Travis (01:03:31):
Ahead had some that didn't even make the list.
Hunter (01:03:33):
We give some
Patrick (01:03:34):
Shoutouts. Single action Army gun. Let's
Hunter (01:03:35):
Give some shoutouts
Travis (01:03:36):
Ones real quick. No, I don't. I've never owned a col single action army. Like
Patrick (01:03:40):
Really
Travis (01:03:40):
Uhuh. Never You own Black Hawk. I've never owned a
Hunter (01:03:43):
Cult. Single action. The Army. I haven't had one either. I never had,
Travis (01:03:45):
I've just never pulled the trigger on that kind of money for a single action. I'm just, yeah. I like the double action stuff.
Hunter (01:03:51):
If I was gonna get one, I'd get a shooter though. Cause I gotta
Travis (01:03:53):
Shoot it. Yeah, exactly. I'd
Hunter (01:03:54):
Have to shoot a and
Travis (01:03:55):
It'll be a replica. It's gonna be the real deal. It's gonna
Hunter (01:03:57):
Be the real deal because
Travis (01:03:59):
One, I couldn't afford to shoot on a light. And two, I wouldn't want to shoot on a light, just my luck. Fourth and come would break or something. <laugh>. But
Patrick (01:04:07):
<laugh>,
Travis (01:04:08):
I mean, not that they do, it's just kinda luck. I have cut,
Patrick (01:04:11):
Pull it out and drop it right on the concrete.
Hunter (01:04:13):
Matt, spend more time at Coton in your safe, you know. That's right. But let's give some shout outs to some honorable mentions that didn't make the tournament. Um, and let's just start with Taurus. Shout out to Taurus. Taurus has been around a long time. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, um, the model 85 has been around a long time. It's their, uh, it's their small frame five shot, which they do a now a six shot. Right.
Travis (01:04:35):
8 56 56
Hunter (01:04:35):
Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Um, but then 38 special. And then they did a model, um,
Travis (01:04:41):
6 0 5.
Hunter (01:04:42):
6 0 5 for their 3 57 magnums.
Patrick (01:04:45):
And they have a great price point too. I mean, they do.
Travis (01:04:47):
Yeah. We've sold tons of 80 fives over the years
Hunter (01:04:49):
And everybody knows. And honestly we, we kind of debated on whether this should be in here or not. But, you know, everybody knows what a Taurus judge is. A Taurus judge is a, it's a highly sought after revolver. It's been around for how long, Travis? 15 years now.
Travis (01:05:04):
I want to say it came out. We
Patrick (01:05:06):
Were across the street.
Hunter (01:05:06):
Yeah. Oh 7 0 8.
Travis (01:05:08):
Mid two thousands. Like oh five
Hunter (01:05:09):
Maybe. Oh five. Okay. So maybe 15. 16. 16. It's
Travis (01:05:12):
Been around a while. We tried
Patrick (01:05:13):
Keeping a list.
Hunter (01:05:14):
Remember? You know what? Yeah.
Patrick (01:05:16):
I tell you what, I don't I ever recall a revolver that came out that had so many people looking for it. Like that
Hunter (01:05:21):
One did. That was a Yeah. I mean,
Patrick (01:05:22):
In our time, in our, in our time and I'm 50, but like in our time, that gun, the amount of people that it appealed to was, I mean it was,
Frankie (01:05:31):
I got stand for it. The P 85 Ruger. Yeah. When that thing came out
Hunter (01:05:36):
Or the, I'll tell you what,
Frankie (01:05:37):
Y'all weren't work there. It was unbelievable. Well put it this way. Crazy cuz that was the first semi-auto that
Hunter (01:05:41):
High capacity
Frankie (01:05:42):
They had done. Right. That rug did
Hunter (01:05:44):
No,
Frankie (01:05:44):
That Ruger did 80. That's as as
Patrick (01:05:46):
It's not A2 two. Yeah.
Travis (01:05:47):
You know, people always say Taurus TAUs copy of Smith Revolvers, old Beretta tooling on the 92 twos. Yeah. The Taurus judge was so popular. Smith and away copied them and they came out with the governor.
Frankie (01:06:01):
The governor do that. That's right.
Travis (01:06:03):
The only difference is you can do moon clips and do 45 auto as well.
Frankie (01:06:07):
Yeah. No moon clips. So
Travis (01:06:08):
They improved the design a little bit. But that's pretty good when you hit Smith and Wesson copying a parts.
Hunter (01:06:14):
And, uh, Smith the governor is, uh, six not a five. Correct? Correct. Correct. Correct. Yeah. It's a bigger frame. So it's a little bit bigger frame. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, the, the governor didn't make it either, but you know, that's newer, that's newer stuff. Doesn't, doesn't hold a candle to some of these other ones. So shout out to TAUs.
Travis (01:06:30):
Oh,
Hunter (01:06:31):
Another shout out to, uh, when I said Dan Wesson, Patrick gave me this look like I was, you know, sick or something like that. But, well, it's just my
Patrick (01:06:41):
Personals personal opinion. Mechanically it's a great gun.
Hunter (01:06:43):
Great. And then you could change the barrels out inaccuracy. Remember how people, when we get a Dan Wesson in, people were like, would kind of flip out about it at the old place. We put it up on the used gun rack and people were like, Hey, does it have barrels with it and all that? Because some people just have this thing for, for Dan Wesson. I'm not one of those people. Right. But, uh, you know, well
Patrick (01:07:01):
It, to me, I kind of, it's kind of like owning a scooter. You know, it might be fun to ride it around, but you don't want nobody to see that you have one. Does that make sense?
Frankie (01:07:11):
I mean, and you remember, remember we'd had all the barrels. We had the extra barrels in the back
Travis (01:07:16):
Eventually. And then they made the pistol pack that came with like a little suitcase with all the barrels.
Frankie (01:07:22):
And I'm not sure I wanted to shoot one after putting the barrel on it myself. I'm not excited. You had that feeler, remember the Yeah.
Patrick (01:07:28):
Little shim.
Frankie (01:07:29):
The shim to make sure it was tight enough or not too tight?
Travis (01:07:32):
Well, they were accurate cause they had a short hammer fall, but they had a goofy feeling. Double action trigger
Patrick (01:07:37):
For Right. They were real popular with like the silhouette shooters back in.
Travis (01:07:40):
He'd never sell like a couple coming in looking for their first gun for their home. Oh
Frankie (01:07:44):
No. Cause they had
Travis (01:07:45):
A weird feel to 'em. Yeah. Uhhuh
Frankie (01:07:46):
<affirmative>. It had that specific market target done. Yeah, absolutely.
Hunter (01:07:51):
So you had, so you, you referred to that as a scooter. I would think it's my like a
Patrick (01:07:55):
That was cutter. I should done that.
Hunter (01:07:57):
But a, a Negan revolver or a Webley. I would, I would,
Travis (01:08:00):
I'd rather have a dam with
Hunter (01:08:02):
Yeah. <laugh>. Me too.
Frankie (01:08:03):
You know, we like what we like and we definitely don't like what we don't like.
Hunter (01:08:07):
Weebley and Russian nagan. They, they came as a, uh, honorable mention because it was because
Mike (01:08:13):
Iconic, the British Weebley was the British Weebley. Yeah.
Patrick (01:08:17):
You know, I mean it's, it's, it's a great gun. I mean, they use it for a long time. I like it. It
Hunter (01:08:23):
Looks like a gun. They're very rough
Mike (01:08:24):
In his shed made the weebley.
Frankie (01:08:26):
It's not a ringing endorsement. But didn't Custer have a couple Wembley Bulldogs at the Big Horn? I
Hunter (01:08:31):
Feel like Horn. I feel like if the infield had a, I don't know.
Patrick (01:08:34):
Did he? I think
Hunter (01:08:35):
He did. If a British infield just like had a, a kid, it would be like a webley. You know, it just, it's just they're clunky. They're kind of like you said, it's like somebody threw it in the dryer and they just bounced around in the dryer or something like that. You know what I mean? Rattled around. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, and then the Negan, I don't know
Patrick (01:08:53):
That. Just, just pick it up. You know why it's on the list? <laugh>. I mean it's like, uh, <laugh>.
Hunter (01:08:58):
It's Russian. It's
Patrick (01:08:59):
Russian. Remember
Travis (01:08:59):
The Lama?
Patrick (01:09:01):
Oh, oh, Jeff Stewart. Yeah. Yeah. Jeff Stewart carried
Travis (01:09:04):
One that was, that was a horse of a
Hunter (01:09:05):
Gun. Virginia Drag Goon.
Patrick (01:09:07):
That's another boat anchor. Yeah. Right.
Hunter (01:09:09):
Yeah.
Patrick (01:09:11):
That thing was heavy.
Hunter (01:09:13):
God,
Frankie (01:09:13):
They're saying
Mike (01:09:13):
For Beast Cold single Army.
Patrick (01:09:15):
Were we still got one more on here to, to talk about.
Hunter (01:09:17):
What's that? Oh yeah,
Patrick (01:09:18):
It's the Chia Rhino. Exactly. And what's funny is I've never shot one. Um, they're
Hunter (01:09:23):
Actually, they're actually
Patrick (01:09:24):
Nice to shoot. It's, it's the cool design. I think It is so neat. It's different. Uh, it's different. It's, um, it's the, it's the first real, I I guess new design to come out in a revolver in a very long time. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. It's just nothing like anything else. So I give it an a plus as far as on design and engineering as far as just being different. The grip I think needs attention. I think the grip, the angle is bad. Little short. And it's, it's a short grip.
Mike (01:09:52):
I'd have to shoot it to make sure. Cuz sometimes the grips can be deceiving. Yeah. You look at it and go, that's just not gonna work. And then you shoot and go, man, that's great. Mm-hmm.
Hunter (01:09:59):
<affirmative>, you know, I have two shoutouts mm-hmm. <affirmative> that did make the list one is, uh, the bfr. That's a very unique gun. Oh. Um, we see those. They, they go, they fly outta here. You know, most of them are the, the, the iconic one's. The 45 70 you say? Yeah.
Patrick (01:10:17):
It's crazy.
Hunter (01:10:17):
Oh yeah. Yeah. It's a 45 70
Patrick (01:10:19):
Revolver revolver. It's like a size black
Hunter (01:10:21):
Hole. It's called the bfr. I'm sure you can take a wild guess of what B FFR stands for. Um,
Patrick (01:10:26):
Biggest finest Revolver. Is that correct? I think
Hunter (01:10:28):
So. <laugh> not,
Patrick (01:10:30):
Not what you're thinking.
Hunter (01:10:31):
That's right.
Travis (01:10:31):
Not the NR 17 version.
Hunter (01:10:34):
Yeah. And then the, um, the other shout out is the, um, God, I lost my train thought here. Freedom, uh, freedom Arms. Yeah. Oh wow. So Freedom Arms is uh, that's like your custom
Travis (01:10:45):
Model. 83. The
Hunter (01:10:46):
First single action. You know Kaul,
Travis (01:10:48):
Wasn't it?
Hunter (01:10:49):
Yeah. They're very well made guns. They
Mike (01:10:51):
Are Bank vault strong for sure.
Patrick (01:10:52):
Oh yeah. It was a model 83 was like the Kaul action and then the model Premier 97 in
Hunter (01:10:56):
97
Patrick (01:10:57):
Was like the 45.
Travis (01:10:58):
The one revolver we used to get 'em in. You hold 'em up to the light, you can't even see no light between the cylinder and the frames.
Hunter (01:11:04):
But it doesn't bind
Travis (01:11:06):
And it doesn't binds perfectly. It's like,
Patrick (01:11:08):
It's it's like a Rolex watch, man. Yeah. It just is. So
Hunter (01:11:10):
Shout out to them. They didn't make this list cuz they're, I guess they're just a newer gun company and it is a, a copy of a cult Single action in essence. Exactly. So <laugh>, so, but shout out to them, the winner. They put out a one of the finest well made revolvers on the planet, in my opinion. Yes. There's no question about that.
Patrick (01:11:29):
They ain't to invent a double action. That'd be kind of sweet. It would, that would be really sweet. Well,
Hunter (01:11:34):
I, I tell you, so we've been talking a lot about Colts. So a lot of the newer cult snake guns that are coming back, um, they're coming in at good price points. And the quality's great. I mean, the finish, they'll never finish these guns like they used to in my opinion. But wouldn't you agree, Travis, that the Yes. The quality and they're starting to ship a lot more of the King Cobras. Um, they're coming in, um, different calibers now.
Travis (01:11:56):
Yeah. Pythons have really been available lately compared to where they were a year ago.
Hunter (01:12:01):
Yep.
Travis (01:12:01):
Anacondas, they hit ups and downs. You, you'll get a stretch where you can get 'em then you don't see 'em. You know, they got that new, uh, king Cobra and 22 Long two Rifle. We've only had one of them so far. They're still hard to get.
Patrick (01:12:16):
Isn't doesn't Czi own them now or do something with them. They
Travis (01:12:20):
Bought Colt. Yes.
Patrick (01:12:21):
Okay. All right. Nice. Well that's a great company too. So that's, it's not bad. That's
Hunter (01:12:26):
Why. Yeah. Well this was fun. This
Travis (01:12:30):
Was, yeah, it was, this was a lot of fun. It was like working at the old gun store, 1999 again.
Hunter (01:12:36):
That's right. A lot of fun. That's right. Mm-hmm.
Patrick (01:12:37):
<affirmative>
Hunter (01:12:38):
Back when, remember when Colt said they were gonna stop making them? Remember the rush we had on those? Oh yeah. Oh yeah. That was wild. That was in 99 I think. Wasn't
Travis (01:12:46):
It? Remember when the Pythons went Custom shop? Only they were trophies were fun. Like elites. Elites. Elites.
Hunter (01:12:51):
Yeah. Python elite. But the wood grips. Yeah. Yeah. Those were, those were sweet man. Good times. Thanks for being here today. We have a champion. Yeah. Champion. Single
Patrick (01:13:03):
Action Army.
Hunter (01:13:03):
The Cult
Patrick (01:13:04):
Supreme. We also have to give a big shout out to the biggest piece of junk in history of, of like revolvers. But it's actually kind of famous. The, uh, RG <laugh>. So the R the rg, what was it? The, the model. RRG 10. Title 10. RG 10 22 short. Um, that's the one that was used. Wasn't used to to shoot Reagan.
Travis (01:13:24):
That I couldn't tell you. John Hinkley Hank.
Hunter (01:13:26):
It was something like
Patrick (01:13:27):
That. It was, it was like yeah, a piece
Hunter (01:13:30):
Of junk. Hinkley was Pat
Travis (01:13:31):
Said back in the
Hunter (01:13:31):
Sixties, Hinkley
Travis (01:13:32):
Out when the riots and stuff were going on.
Hunter (01:13:34):
Oh, he sold anything had
Travis (01:13:35):
He said they sold every one of 'em. They could. He said Dream top was built on a Rgt. The first old store. The
Hunter (01:13:41):
Old old
Travis (01:13:41):
Store. The old old store of think the R that
Hunter (01:13:44):
Murphy's license. That's what I'd always heard. Sold every
Patrick (01:13:46):
Handgun.
Hunter (01:13:47):
Yeah. Well a lot there. Every firearm they had, lot of people used to just stick 'em in a tackle box or a Oh yeah. Or a toolbox or so like that. It's like
Patrick (01:13:53):
Another, a gumball machine. I mean <laugh> it looked like Yeah. That
Travis (01:13:56):
Must look like a cat pistol. Yeah.
Hunter (01:13:57):
Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Like a blank gun or something. Like a cap gun. Huh?
Patrick (01:14:01):
I wouldn't stand in front of it. No Cap.
Hunter (01:14:02):
No. I can't believe
Travis (01:14:03):
Is rg. That's Rome, wasn't it? Rru Jim.
Patrick (01:14:06):
Right, right. So they're made in Germany or were made in Germany. And I always say tell people all the time, it's just proof that not everything that comes out German. I
Travis (01:14:12):
Was gonna say, he said German engineering
Patrick (01:14:15):
Man. These things were bottom of trash
Travis (01:14:17):
Man. Mercedes, bmw, RG 10.
Hunter (01:14:19):
<laugh> <laugh> nine. How about
Frankie (01:14:24):
Know the history of that? Cause they probably, you know, somebody's making something. Probably just had material left. Doorman. Let's see if we can make a revolver out of it or something. I mean, how did it just start? It probably was jailed start building a, I know by the other Germans piece of crap.
Hunter (01:14:35):
<laugh>
Patrick (01:14:36):
Was leftover beer cans from Octoberfest <laugh>.
Hunter (01:14:39):
Exactly.
Frankie (01:14:41):
I mean what did you propose that Let's build this, but it's not be a very good <laugh> come in, but
Travis (01:14:48):
We'll sell millions. And
Patrick (01:14:50):
They did. I mean, I tell you what, so, you know, I buy lots of gun collections, lots of estates. I go to a ton of houses every year and staggering the amount of people who have an RG revolver somewhere in their house and that they've had 'em forever.
Frankie (01:15:03):
Well, were they 25 bucks if that,
Hunter (01:15:04):
When they, in
Patrick (01:15:05):
Fact, probably not even that. Not
Frankie (01:15:06):
Even that.
Patrick (01:15:08):
Probably start
Hunter (01:15:09):
Them
Patrick (01:15:09):
Away. Yeah. It's like the gun, the guns really aren't worth anything. Well, I
Hunter (01:15:13):
Wonder how many are in those buyback programs in the, in the cities that are doing the gun buy I what
Frankie (01:15:17):
Have to give like $150 for Yeah,
Hunter (01:15:19):
We'll give you one 50.
Patrick (01:15:20):
I had one tell back.
Hunter (01:15:21):
Damn. Right. You'll get a, you'll give more from the city than you will from us. I mean, you know,
Patrick (01:15:25):
I'll take a Wawa gift card in a heartbeat. <laugh>.
Hunter (01:15:28):
That's right. Fill up your But
Travis (01:15:29):
This way I had a friend of mine send me a receipt or, or sent me a picture of a receipt this morning. It was from Greentop service, 1964. Wow. Oh wow. Because I showed it to Pat. It was a brown and a five, they paid $60. Oh my God. So if an A five was $60, how much would a R
Hunter (01:15:47):
60? Oh my god.
Patrick (01:15:48):
$6. I don't know. It
Travis (01:15:50):
Had to be under 15 bucks.
Hunter (01:15:52):
Had to been my
Frankie (01:15:53):
First four 10 came from Green Top service and that was probably 67. 1967.
Travis (01:15:58):
1964. Single,
Hunter (01:15:59):
Single barrel. Single
Frankie (01:16:00):
Barrel. Four 10
Hunter (01:16:02):
Iver Johnson.
Frankie (01:16:04):
I, you know, I couldn't, I couldn't tell you what it was. My grandfather bought it for me.
Hunter (01:16:08):
I Johnson didn't make this list. Patrick
Patrick (01:16:10):
<laugh>. Oh, that's another S head. Yeah, the house head. I think
Hunter (01:16:14):
The old Al's head.
Patrick (01:16:14):
Every house is one of those things. High
Hunter (01:16:16):
Standard Sentinel 22
Travis (01:16:18):
Old Smith tip up you were talking about. Yeah.
Hunter (01:16:20):
By the way, if anybody's listening, if you have an old Smith tip up a lot, for some reason people think those things automatically, oh my god, this thing's worth a mint.
Patrick (01:16:29):
Right. Because it's old. Oh, it's old. It's
Hunter (01:16:31):
Old, but it ain't worth shit
Patrick (01:16:33):
<laugh>. That's it. Unless it's, unless it's a Scofield.
Hunter (01:16:36):
Yeah, that's right. Unless it's a Scofield. Right, right.
Patrick (01:16:38):
Yeah, I mean, so, um, back in the like late 18 hundreds and the early 19 hundreds, there was tons of these little top brick 32 s on the market and pretty much 99.9% of 'em aren't worth
Hunter (01:16:49):
Squat. And they're not safe. I don't care. They're probably not safe to shoot you. So don't, don't shoot these things
Patrick (01:16:53):
Just cuz it's a hundred years old or 125 years old. Don't get you hopes up. So,
Hunter (01:16:58):
Um, which
Patrick (01:16:59):
Age does not always dictate
Hunter (01:17:01):
Value. That's right. It does not. Which a good way to end this is if you do have old firearms and you want Patrick or us to come out and, um, purchase any collections, you do that almost every day of the week now, don't you Patrick?
Patrick (01:17:14):
I pretty much go out four outta five days a week right now. Yes. Okay.
Hunter (01:17:17):
Yeah. So, you know, whether it's four guns or 400 guns, you're up, you're up for it. Right. I'll buy it.
Patrick (01:17:24):
You'll buy it. I'll buy it. Pretty much anything 1870, the present. Yeah. So. All right. And also we buy
Hunter (01:17:29):
Ammo. We a junk to go with it.
Patrick (01:17:31):
We buy reloading equipment. Yeah. We buy all that stuff. Yeah. We bought, we bought Lead Ingots, so That's right. I bought 3000 pounds of lead. Yeah. Like two weeks ago off a guy. So
Hunter (01:17:42):
That was, and you know, or you know, you can, if it's just a gun or something you've inherited or you don't want, you want to get rid of, you can always bring it by the store, um, and sell it or trade it in on something else. Uh, we always give very fair prices, but, uh, a lot of people are starting to sell stuff now. So it's, uh, markets, markets changing quite a bit. So wouldn't you, wouldn't you agree?
Patrick (01:18:03):
Uh, yeah. I mean, it constantly changes, you know, as I said, you know, I've been here over 30 years and, you know, the ups and downs as far as industry and what's hot and what's not. And you know, the, the, the collectible guns now weren't necessarily collectible 25 years ago and vice versa. Yeah. So some of these guns that when I started working here we're super collectible. Well, today's generation just doesn't want 'em, they want something different. So
Hunter (01:18:27):
Yeah. It's kind of aged
Patrick (01:18:28):
Out. Right. So nothing, nothing stays at the top forever. Nothing.
Hunter (01:18:32):
So. Well, you know, we used to, we used to joke Single action
Patrick (01:18:34):
Army. Except,
Hunter (01:18:35):
Except single action Army. Hey, most of pieces.
Patrick (01:18:37):
Single piece. Bring all
Hunter (01:18:38):
You bring all you got to Green tops. That's right. Single action Army, you know, pieces we're
Patrick (01:18:42):
Talking about on here. Yeah,
Hunter (01:18:43):
That's true. We used to joke about some stuff one day we're like, you know, they didn't make many, this thing didn't work out, but they were like, well I bet you in 20 years it'll be worth quadruple what it is now. And, uh, you know, that's happened, you know, and in the past, you know, when Smith did the six tens and 10 millimeter mm-hmm. <affirmative>, remember we blew those things out cause nobody wanted to buy 'em. Right. It was a dog and then what, within 5, 5, 6 years ago mm-hmm. <affirmative>. They just went, they went white hot online. People were paying crazy money for those guns. Okay. Because you just couldn't find 'em. They were pretty rare. But what do Wood Smith do? They brought, brought back the six 10. Right. You know,
Patrick (01:19:15):
So saw the dollar signs.
Hunter (01:19:16):
Yeah. All right guys. Appreciate it. Enjoy it. Single action Army, Mike Single you look. Action Army. You look like you're happy, man. I'm quite satisfied.
Patrick (01:19:25):
Yeah. I feel pretty good. I didn't predict that. Didn't a cigarette one coming, but I'm happy with, I couldn't
Hunter (01:19:28):
Use a cigarette right now. <laugh> <laugh>. It's good to be champ. You're gonna go home and play with your single action Army. I'm gonna go
Patrick (01:19:34):
Home and play. He plays with, he plays with it a lot. <laugh>.
Hunter (01:19:38):
All right. Travis, Patrick, Mike, Frankie, thanks for being here. Thanks for listening. Another great episode of the Greentop Outdoors. Thanks guys. Yeah, thanks for having
Narrator (01:19:46):
Me. Thanks. Thanks for listening to the Greentop Outdoors Podcast. Hunting, fishing, and all things outdoors. It's not just a hobby, it's a lifestyle like, and subscribe to the Greentop Outdoors Podcast wherever you listen to podcasts. And learn more about greentop at greentophuntfish.com.